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To: logi_cal869

“PPIs have the effect of increasing gastric pH.

Sodium bicarbonate has the effect of increasing gastric ph.”

Correlation does not prove causation. Clearly, different things can produce similar effects, through different mechanisms. You seem to confuse that.

Exercise has the effect of weight loss, and cancer has the effect of weight loss weight loss, therefore exercise is the same as cancer. That is the type of logic you propose.

PPIs do not cause their side effects from the level of pH in the stomach, the side effects are from the chronic disruptions in the processes the produce and regulate gastric acid, and other processes in the body.

Different foods have different pH. That is normal, and the body is designed to sense and react to produce the required pH for digestion (low), and later in the digestive tract, a higher pH for absorption into the blood. Baking soda’s effect is simply as a food with a high pH entering the stomach. If the body senses food that needs to digest, it will produce acid until it senses the right pH.

PPIs are drugs designed to interfere with the production of gastric acid itself - inhibitors.


50 posted on 06/23/2018 10:46:11 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo
“PPIs have the effect of increasing gastric pH.

Sodium bicarbonate has the effect of increasing gastric ph.”

Correlation does not prove causation. Clearly, different things can produce similar effects, through different mechanisms. You seem to confuse that.

Correlation is not causation, but understanding biochemistry sure does help.

Proton pump inhibitors act by blocking the hydrogen/potassium adenosine triphosphatase enzyme system of the gastric parietal cells. The proton pump is the terminal stage in gastric acid secretion, being directly responsible for secreting H+ ions into the gastric lumen, making it an ideal target for inhibiting acid secretion, thus decreasing the acidity of the stomach. Inhibiting acid secretion inhibits lowering of ph.

Sodium bicarbonate is an alkaline molecule that directly raises the stomach ph. Introducing an alkaline increases ph.

55 posted on 06/23/2018 11:38:01 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: BeauBo

Obviously I hit a nerve. I really don’t care [sic] what that nerve is, but your argument demonstrates more confusion than that which you proffer on my part.

Your focus on causation to reinforce your superiority complex is telling, but I am not going to school you, so this is for others:

Baking soda is a form of self-medication to mask one or more symptoms and should not be taken without understanding the effects thereof. The internet is rife with harmful hyperbole, and my effort to call this out is in the interest of all.

For you, go ahead, take your PPIs and eat your baking soda. The irony is that it will assuredly give you something else to argue about with the doctor as you wonder what happened to your health. This is because repeated use of either will have the same unintended consequences, each with their own unique complications, both principally as a result of inhibiting the autonomic nervous system’s normal signaling, the ironic result a self-reinforcing delusion as you argue causation with your doctor.


63 posted on 06/24/2018 3:10:12 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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