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To: packrat35

They too, were in the wrong, but the whole Navy appears to need a reshaping to good seamanship, since we had three of these happen in less than a year.
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I agree to your statement about shared blame from the top down and not pinning it ALL on the ladies. But, the “ladies” are the NYT front page, 50 pt bold print headline of what the over arching problem is. Namely, too many legislators and too many presidents aided by too many weak, career obsessed, generals and admirals have allowed too much Political Correctness to take root in our military and sadly “good seamanship” is like a minnow in the sea in contrast to the big picture of politically correct problems about the Navy and our military that have to be rooted out one at a time.

Hopefully, Trump will get around to fixing the military, at least partially, before he leaves office.


28 posted on 06/16/2018 6:45:24 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Cen-Tejas

I am not defending the constant push of having more women on ships. Far from it, I do NOT agree with it at all. I was only commenting that the issue in these three accidents are more a deeper long term failure of the Navy in training and other fundamentals.


31 posted on 06/18/2018 10:54:57 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Cen-Tejas; packrat35
the “ladies”

I am not here going to debate the issue of women on warships because it is irrelevant.

The problem here is poor seamanship on the part of the JOs which reflects poor training, which reflects poor leadership.

Women are just as capable of navigating a ship as are men. I grew up racing sailboats and knew a lot of fine women sailboat racers. And it you can sail a sailboat on a crowded race course without hitting anyone, you can navigate a warship without hitting other ships. The former is a lot harder than the latter, in fact, which only becomes problematic when the other guy is shooting at you.

And this isn't about diversity. The poor minority sailors who were killed deserved to have competent officers navigating their ships.

33 posted on 06/18/2018 1:14:01 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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