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To: EinNYC
Teachers' unions have, for years, robbed children and their parents by protecting inferior and unqualified teachers by allowing them to occupy the classrooms all over America.

The improvement of learning performance of children should be the yardstick by which a teacher is measured. Good teachers will prefer that measurement of their classroom's success or failure. Bad and unqualified teachers will rebel and revolt.

5 posted on 06/13/2018 11:29:50 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
Teachers' unions have, for years, robbed children and their parents by protecting inferior and unqualified teachers by allowing them to occupy the classrooms all over America. The improvement of learning performance of children should be the yardstick by which a teacher is measured. Good teachers will prefer that measurement of their classroom's success or failure. Bad and unqualified teachers will rebel and revolt.

Your statement is absolutely a bunch of hooey. The point I was making had NOTHING to do with UNIONS. It had to do with the greed and duplicity of principals going behind teachers' backs to change grades. You were just attempting to use ANY mention of "teacher" as a ready pulpit from which to spew your knee-jerk union hatred. I am not supporting unions wholesale, they certainly have their corruption problems, but this specific grade-changing situation has NOTHING to do with "unions protecting bad teachers". No matter what kind of teacher the kids have--and there are very few "bad apples" among teachers, from what I've ever seen (the perception being warped by newspapers who LOVE to prominently place any story catching a teacher doing something unsavory--never plumbers, never accountants, mind you)--I contend it is disgusting that NYC administrators routinely change grades behind teachers' backs, rewarding poor or no work with passing grades and further bringing down a system already on its last ethical or quality gasp. Your suggestion that "the improvement of learning performance of children" should be the "yardstick by which a teacher is measured" is a typical outside-the-profession statement. When you have students coming into your classroom with reading levels of 1 or 2 out of 4, with poor computational skills, with poor writing skills, with little motivation to work hard because they know the teacher "has" to pass them, you will not see great academic success no matter what kind of teacher you are. If you give the students the grade they actually deserve, you open yourself up to the road I described above. And if you give them passing grades they don't deserve, you contribute to the fraud. No wonder education classes' enrollment is way down at colleges, and teachers are retiring at record rates.

9 posted on 06/13/2018 12:49:18 PM PDT by EinNYC
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