[Scooter100]

There are far worse tools at their disposal these days than water, which is certainly the cheapest. More permanently disabling methods such as brain surgery, pharmaceuticals, or microwave intrusion into the brain are part of the expanding kit.

War sickens me. But when wartime philosophy spills over into peacetime, is applied to one's own citizens, by a corrupt leadership, then we abandon morality and civility and enter a world of savages.

[DJ Taylor]

"when we abandon morality and civility and enter a world of savages."

This is still an uncivilized world, and if a people become too civilized to do what's necessary to survive in an uncivilized world, they won't survive.