Posted on 05/02/2018 9:42:10 PM PDT by ransomnote
Red pilling the stubborn isn't easy. It takes every inch of psychology you got. I got a lot and it's still hard to bust through a lifetime of indoctrination. I mean, I hear myself talk and think how it must sound to somebody who doesn't have a clue. Then I have to dial it back like to a factor of 188.
This red-pilling business is a slippery endeavor. One wrong move and you end up in kookoobird land, and there is no coming back from that place.
Bagster
Theology can be simple and complex. But on the key elements of what's necessary to form and maintain a relationship with GOD, the New Testament is plenty clear.
The Sermon on The Mount has a lot of clarity that most Christians fail to rise to the measure of. Acts 2 has a lot of clarity that a lot of Christians fail to rise to the measure of. I COR 12-14 have a lot of clarity that a lot of Christians fail to rise to the measure of.
And, different groups of Christians can argue about the details in those passages several hundred more years--all the while failing to even sincerely attempt to walk out their Salvation in the terms of those verses with fear and trembling.
NEVERTHELESS, the enemy is the author of confusion. And satan's stooges have for at least 100-150 years in the modern era been deliberately seeding into various "Christian" groups and seeding into various Biblical translations--error along with half-truths and too often brazen lies.
It's a brazen UNBiblical lie that all roads lead to God and Heaven. Christ made that very clear when HE SAID--NO MAN reaches the Father except through me {Christ}. Guess what--THE SHACK will likely be incinerated in the fiery truth of Christ's WORDS--particularly for even a hint that any other route is pretty good, OK.
At first, I thought the 'God as Aunt Jemima' metaphor was clever and sort of offered some good insights about God's capacity and priority in loving His human creation. Yet, after the whole of the book, I thought the cost of wading through all the error bones I had to spit out was just not worth the meager fare of somewhat useful insights.
And I thought that for the young Christians, the poorly studied or educated Christians, the curious about Christianity--the book was likely to be a disaster to their theological understanding of truth.
And, I figured that the more mature and Spirit-filled Christians would likely already have whatever meager helpful insights the book offered about the Love of God.
I was somewhat guardedly willing to allow that an occasional person might be edified--after all--Holy Spirit can use anything for God's purposes. I just felt that the book as a whole was too much of a hazard to encourage anyone to read it for truth about God or Christianity.
Congrats!
Sounds like that trip had more than enough highlights you’d prefer not to relive. And yet, you had a very memorable time.
Well, it looks like good old Q is taking a night off. Good thing for me. I'm about wore out from red-pilling another Q thread out there -----> http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3652490/posts">HERE and taking on a roomful of NeverQs. It's down to just me and Fantasywriter now, one on one. So it's a mismatch. TexOkie made an appearance. Thanks TO. :)
I am weary like Gandalf the Grey after facing the Balrog. So this Editor's pamphlet is all I have left for the evening.
I will say this briefly. There was a lot of good stuff on cellphones triggered by last night's Q photos. Many people think the Apple pics had something to do with cell phones and much discussion was had on that topic. It never ceases to amaze this paper the amount and level of expertise on any given subject. In this case, cellphone and electronic technology.
There was other productive discussion on a few other topics.
Anyway. That was today. And today is over. Welcome to tonight. Tomorrow is coming. And so is Winter.
Oh, and today marked the return of TEXOKIE, who had been MIA for a while there. We welcome her valuable commentary back to Q-ville.
Bagster
It was an unscheduled “adventure vacation”. I’d do it again in a minute. Pictures were great!
Red pilling my spouse has had it’s own set of idiosyncrasies. We’ve both moaned and complained about the problem so long and are both in our 60’s so have seen glimmers of hope for a greater America come and go. I ~think~ at first he kept only hearing me state the old problem and stopped there. Then, the prospect of me trying to convince him of hope was not only daunted by US history but our own business currently in the doldrums (stressful at our age with me already retired and him wanting to retire)
Took another tack during my grandkid sabbatical. I pretty much kept up with you all for 4 days there. (My record I might add - LOL) While traveling we make it a point to have a few moments of catch-up texts morning and night. Each day at only one of those chat times I hit him with a “great news” pertinent Q fact. Now that I’ve been home 3 days I’ve been asked about Q drops every day! Yay!
OTOH - the daughter I visited, I’d already red pilled last month. Son-in-law was red pilled at some point recently by co-workers. Personally, I think America is approaching a tipping point, maybe it’s just among conservatives at present, but enough folks know something Q is going on. In the last month, since Easter, I’ve noticed in mentioning Q about half the time folks at least know what I’m talking about whether they choose red, blue or are undecided. Yesterday hubby and I went to visit an uncle of mine who started out to red pill me...that was a cool first.
Disclaimer is: I know my pool of contacts are more like than unlike me...that will skew results. But, at Christmas nobody was recognizing my attempts to converse Q.
They are hard nuts to crack, here in the land of fruits and nuts. But, like Hillary, I persevere.
It's anecdotes like yours that keep me positive. ThankQ, kind lady.
p.s. Keep at your hubs. You'll have him FReeQing alongside you in no time. I can't wait to meet him.
Bagster
txhurl wrote:
“...deputize HS Varsity teams, truckers, Amway distributors, waiters/resses, dirt track racers, etc.”
HS varsity teams?
Damn skippy.
J.V. and Frosh-Soph just can't cut it. And here's a prime example.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Bagster
You said:
And I thought that for the young Christians, the poorly studied or educated Christians, the curious about Christianity--the book was likely to be a disaster to their theological understanding of truth.
And, I figured that the more mature and Spirit-filled Christians would likely already have whatever meager helpful insights the book offered about the Love of God.
Again, for me, you hit the nail on the head again with that statement. I have no doubt that God can and will use everything He can to bring people (1) to salvation and (2) to a closer relationship/walk with Him. But thru my life I have found that when I was in need of my walk being nearer to Him it's been something in His Word that I've needed.
My husband and I have very different testimonies. He grew up in a strong church family and gave his life to the Lord at a young age. I did not meet and accept Christ until age 30 after some wild life and a trip into new age lies/evil. In hubby I see almost an innocence I sometimes envy and he's a synical 63 yr old. In reading The Shack he was moved to serious tears. He is the one between us who tears up at films and books much more than me but I didn't get that at all from The Shack. I was probably keeping a subconscious list of Biblical debates as I read. However, while being fully cognizant that my salvation and relationship with Christ is not based on emotion, I am often moved to tears of one sort or another just with a daily Bible Study. The life within those Words is nothing to compare to a novel for me.
Different seasons in my life have been blessed with emotional impact from different portions of scripture. Altho some portions will always remain that relevant to my heart and soul I expect. But written works, fiction or non-fiction which indicate that the "good path of a good life" sort of attainable by some false approach from false gods give me cold chills. It's a lie from the pit of hell. If we don't communicate that Jesus is the Way and the only Way we fall short.
I can't deny that the effect of reading The Shack seemed akin to that of a revival to hubby. It blessed him. But it was the opposite for me. I will say for a couple of weeks after reading the book it led us to some further Bible study together. I can't even recall which passages we studied (too many years ago) but we dedicate one night/week to just studying together so it wasn't a "new thing." Just a topical discussion because the two of us had such different reactions to that book.
weston wrote:
“Wondering what FReeQs think about the supposed wiretap of Cohen’s phone that has now been walked back?
FBI LEGALLY couldn’t listen to Cohen’s calls. But I think it’s possible they did. Now they can’t legally use anything they heard to bring charges. So maybe they’re stuck trying to figure out a legal means by which they can claim to know what they know?”
The very fact that they are backpedaling shows that they are in a trap of their own making.
But on a larger picture, they’ve shredded attorney client privilege.
And in so doing, have shown to everyone that they don’t care one bit for the rule of law.
What? We aren’t speaking Chinese? I get so mixed up sometimes ;)
Son-in-law who’s red pilled is from SoCal.
(course he went around the world playing army for 20 years after that)
His family’s like you tho. They’re all conservatives just trying to survive libland.
That vacation sounds like “the bomb” to me. The good kind :)
So many of the great vacations don’t go by a bit of itinerary or are fraught with would-be problems. It’s all in what you choose to make it. I’m tellin’ ya, a helo ride over a volcano with a camera sounds like a dream :)
“They want to destroy the president; they want to destroy his family. They want to destroy his businesses.
They want to destroy his friends so that no billionaire in let’s say 50 years wakes up and tells his wife, “You know this country is broken and only I can fix it.”
“His wife will say, “Are you crazy? Did you see what happened to Donald Trump and everybody around him?”
That’s what this is about.” Michael Captuto
They are also trying to make sure that no qualified person is going to be willing to serve in Trump administration. JMO.
Likely they did really listen to Trump’s attorney. Now that they have raided, they’ll find whatever they need to get a court order to get that info from NSA.
On the other hand, their may be a link to HRC or Globalist person who is the actual target. We”ll just have to wait and see.
Looking for D/S to target lefties next and frame Patriots in false flags - coming soon. Also look out for false flag to derail the N. Korea peace settlement.
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ThankQ for that link!
Anyone figure out who that “unnamed “NBC associate producer of the forum” was? (the forum being the Commander-in-chief forum).
their = there
My uneducated $.02 since most folks are asleep.
I think the FBI problem in this perfectly serves to remind us all why we need patience to let Q, PDJT, Sessions et al play this entire game to the end. Q keeps stressing doing things LEGALLY. How to get evidence LEGALLY, How to present it LEGALLY. We don’t want our quarry to get away on technicalities. Not that I think the FBI got anything on Potus.
But also, we keep being told “These people are stupid.” Well, they proved it with wiretaps, the manner in which the search was conducted and BIGLY with busting atty/client privilege. That last thing won President Trump a few opinion poll votes. Even numbskulls in America watch ENOUGH TV cop shows to know that’s taboo.
After BJClinton and the blue dress average America is immune to any stormy-shockin-y’all. We/they are more concerned about rights people see every night watching Law & Order.
So, between our side minding p’s & Q LEGALLY and average America waking up to knowing THESE PEOPLE ARE STUPID without reading Q, I think the FBIManIDIOTs have bit off more than they can chew.
Not really an answer. But it’s my thought on the subject.
Better answer than mine but you bring up something that I’ve been praying about/concerned for. Derailing the Korean peace. Every day I’m thankful when I still see peace within reach but the fragility can be so easily destroyed by DS
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