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To: Jim 0216
Ad hominem attacks don't lend themselves to constructive discourse. I am painstakingly trying to understand your position, but you keep adding elements that wasn't part of your original objection.

I am not able to open the link. Can you send a reputable source that defines what you are talking about?

Are you saying that US Code is unlawful because it isn't part of Constitution? Or the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), or the US Government Manual? The IRS? I don't know what you are talking about, but if you give me an address, I will be happy to go downtown and kick the door open and inquire as to where they derive their constitutional authority.

But I think it is intuitive the US government cannot be operated solely by the Constitution. There has to be administration. Are you saying there should not be administration to implement laws?

You do realize that whatever the manner of administration is adopted, there has to be congressional oversight to ensure compliance with the Constitution and public law? If that doesn't happen (which it does not because the citizenry doesn't demand it), then everything is up for grabs.

The citizenry MUST elect officials that follow the Constitution by using sound hermeneutics of original intent. Absent that, they should not expect anything different than what we have today. The NSA is constitutional because the federal government created it as a means to defend the nation, and Congress has been an advocate for its existence because they cut the check every year when the NDAA is signed.

75 posted on 03/14/2018 7:37:25 AM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Salvavida
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land
U.S. Const., Art VI, Cl. 2.

U.S. code outside the enumerated powers delegated by the Constitution to feds are invalid and void. Thus, your Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) not passed by Congress is unconstitutional because ONLY CONGRESS may pass national law. The IRS is validated, unfortunately, by the Sixteenth Amendment.

I think it is intuitive the US government cannot be operated solely by the Constitution.

Then you're a good Anti-American Leftist in favor of unlimited government and federal tyranny which by definition are unconstitutional acts of the feds.

The NSA is constitutional because the federal government created it

Hardly. It is part of the, “administrative state” in which the authority to make regulations (effective as laws) is unlimited, centralized, and delegated to unelected bureaucrats.

You need to get out of the beltway for awhile so you can see the chaotic mess you are in the middle of in D.C. But if you actually think it is valid for the federal government to go outside its constitutional authority, then I don't know why you are on this site which stands for our Free Constitutional Republic.

And if you actually think it is valid for the federal government to go outside its constitutional authority, we have no common ground to have a coherent discussion here because my whole premise is the Constitution is the Supreme law of the land and there is NO valid federal act outside enumerated constitutional authority (id.).

76 posted on 03/14/2018 9:04:24 AM PDT by Jim W N
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