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To: Jim 0216
NSA falls under Department of Defense, similar to DIA. So its unconstituitional?

CIA has no core competancy or capacity for SIGINT. Why would you want to put SIGINT in a HUMINT organization, particularly when it only answers to the President?

I think we are getting crossed on the definition of what is unconstitutional, and we have different ideas on oversight. In the end, EO 12333 and the Constitution were not followed. It is up to the American people to apply pressure to get justice, and not throw the baby out with the bath water.

52 posted on 03/12/2018 2:57:47 PM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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“The Intelligence Community (IC) is a federation of executive branch agencies and organizations that work separately and together to conduct intelligence activities necessary for the conduct of foreign relations and the protection of the national security of the United States. Members include: Central Intelligence Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Department of Energy (Office of Intelligence & Counterintelligence), Department of Homeland Security (Office of Intelligence & Analysis), Department of State (Bureau of Intelligence & Research), Department of Treasury (Office of Intelligence & Analysis), Drug Enforcement Administration (Office of National Security Intelligence), Federal Bureau of Investigation (National Security Branch), National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency/Central Security Service, and specified elements of the United States Air Force, United States Army, United States Coast Guard, United States Marine Corps and the United States Navy. The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) serves as the head of the Intelligence Community (IC), overseeing and directing the implementation of the National Intelligence Program and acting as the principal advisor to the President, the National Security Council, and the Homeland Security Council for intelligence matters related to national security.” https://www.nsa.gov/about/faqs/about-nsa-faqs.shtml#about2

We have too many freaking federal agencies including intelligence agencies. How many do we really need? The NSA pops up because it has been used by Obama against the American People.

“[T]here is no authoritative list of government agencies. For example, FOIA.gov [maintained by the Department of Justice] lists 78 independent executive agencies and 174 components of the executive departments as units that comply with the Freedom of Information Act requirements imposed on every federal agency. This appears to be on the conservative end of the range of possible agency definitions. The United States Government Manual lists 96 independent executive units and 220 components of the executive departments. An even more inclusive listing comes from USA.gov, which lists 137 independent executive agencies and 268 units in the Cabinet.” Sourcebook of United States Executive Agencies

“If no one knows definitively how many agencies, components and commissions exist by whose decrees we must abide, that means we similarly do not know how many employees (let alone contractors) work for the government. The job of reforming the executive branch is an extremely complex one, and the agencies are fighting it and will fight it, with support from dominant media. This entrenchment and collaboration appears to account for some of what is meant by the ‘swamp’.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2017/07/05/how-many-federal-agencies-exist-we-cant-drain-the-swamp-until-we-know/#2161ac381aa2

The Administrative [Regulatory] System is an unconstitutional fourth branch of the federal government. They are not formally part of the President’s cabinet and are quasi-independent from the President. We don’t even know who the hell they all are. Is NSA in that group? Who the hell knows? Either way, this freaking swamp needs to be DRAINED!!!


53 posted on 03/12/2018 3:19:50 PM PDT by Jim W N
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