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To: reaganaut1

I know too many farmers that are addicted to the teat of gubermint programs...

I asked one once if they would give up gubermint subsidies at a rate of 1:2 for a tax cut.... Meaning they would forfeit 100 bucks of subsidy for a 200 buck tax cut...

He said he wouldn't...

This is a YUGE problem.

2 posted on 03/10/2018 12:32:33 PM PST by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: GraceG

NYT wants us to believe tariffs will bring down Trump where Russia or a porn star couldn’t. LOL


4 posted on 03/10/2018 12:36:26 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever) I)
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To: GraceG
I'd gladly give up my subsidies (ARC and PLC) for better grain prices or other things in life that always eluded me, love, travel, most of all fields and fields of flowers and wildlife and a few more things, and constant worry about keeping things going and being responsible. Not for a tax cut equivalent to my average subsidy. This year it was approx Pelosi's crumbs X 5 (it's based on three years of your AGI which you have to sign a release for and affirm that your AGI is 900K or less).

They used to have no limits. Everything helps. Yes, I could get along without it. It could come to the point where I couldn't which is time to get out of it.

I won't justify taking any just because huge land owners get thousands each year and combine putting some in the name of spouses or other family member) even more. All legal but they have cut them considerably compared to former years. I don't know why they do it in the first place as they don't seem to benefit those who could use them the most, people whose sole dream in life is to go into farming of some kind but startup costs today and competing for land.

And they darn well should quit selling our land off to foreigners and quit being so greedy with trying to control more themselves. Look at a map and all the set aside land compared to 30-50 years ago. Green everywhere.

And I can't stand those wind turbines, smaller ones and just one or two and a few solar panels would be acceptable. But we are stuck with them until the end of time for all I know.

Now Solar City and no doubt others are leasing usually wasteland areas even in the midwest many acres from land owners and setting up banks and banks of solar panels. Clean energy. At a cost. But look what's doing to birds and who knows what else?

I don't think foreigners can own or invest in land in Switzerland or Mexico but I thought some US citizens did have places in Mexico.

And water wars are coming; we depend only on rainfall now if not near a significant waterway.

18 posted on 03/10/2018 1:59:48 PM PST by Aliska
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To: GraceG

Fake news


22 posted on 03/10/2018 3:30:50 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: GraceG

Yep - and the farmer they decided to use says the “world is awash in grain”, which might make one beg to ask why we need to either keep at full production or even pay them well to not produce.


27 posted on 03/11/2018 6:52:21 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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