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How Did Uranus Form?
Space.com ^ | 03/08/18 | Nola Taylor Redd,

Posted on 03/09/2018 9:43:05 AM PST by Simon Green

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To: Simon Green

Just here for the jokes....


61 posted on 03/09/2018 11:11:46 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: D Rider

Our solar system is a late comer in a galaxy which had metal-rich systems billions of years earlier. Assuming life happens elsewhere, by whatever means, there were probably civilizations with billion-year histories already in place before the solar system formed. In that span of time the possible extent of technological development is virtually unlimited. For all we know, the solar system and our Earth-Moon habitat was artificially crafted from natural elements like a Japanese garden.

That scenario might be the only explanation for the Moon, which otherwise should not exist at all, especially where it is now.


62 posted on 03/09/2018 11:11:48 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech
That scenario might be the only explanation for the Moon, which otherwise should not exist at all, especially where it is now.

Our built in asteroid/comet catcher.

63 posted on 03/09/2018 11:14:11 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: JustaTech

The problem with that is the universe is just too small and way too young for for random chance to be a mechanism. DNA is based on a 22 “letter” code, and therefore cannot evolve. The math on these theories blew up 40 years ago. That’s why many microbiologists and organic chemist skirt the issue, (to protect their careers.) The nature of information as well as the mathematical study of randomness completely destroy the theory. Not to mention that it violates basic physical laws....just sayin.


64 posted on 03/09/2018 11:33:28 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Simon Green

With this title, 100+ posts are almost guaranteed...


65 posted on 03/09/2018 11:35:33 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: D Rider

The comic restraint so far is surprising.


66 posted on 03/09/2018 11:37:19 AM PST by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'm younger than that now.)
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To: Simon Green

About 1960-61. :>)


67 posted on 03/09/2018 11:55:02 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: lee martell

“Gustave Holst’s ‘The Planets’ has seven movements.
...
Uranus was characterized as “Uranus, the Magician”; boisterous, powerful and icy.”


Sure, Uranus was boisterous...it had the biggest movements. :>)


68 posted on 03/09/2018 11:58:34 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Simon Green

Well if you want information on the subject let me get you an expert. Barry...........Barry Hussein! Get your lazy ass over here, someone wants you.


69 posted on 03/09/2018 12:02:37 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Vendome

Fry: ... hey, as long as you don’t make me smell Uranus.

Leela: I don’t get it.

Professor Hubert Farnsworth: I’m sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.

Fry: Oh. What’s it called now?

Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Urrectum. Here, let me locate it for you.

Fry: No, no, I, I think I’ll just smell around a bit over here.


70 posted on 03/09/2018 12:05:19 PM PST by Clay Moore (MAGA)
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To: Simon Green

I don’t know. How did yours?


71 posted on 03/09/2018 12:43:46 PM PST by Wuli (qu)
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To: Sirius Lee

Not to mention the source of our tides, which help keep the ocean healthy. I haven’t studied this aspect, but the Moon probably is beneficial from the standpoint of rotational stability, since it carries the vast majority of the angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system.

The far side would be an ideal location for all manner of telescopes, if we had access. Maybe Trump can make a deal.


72 posted on 03/09/2018 1:23:22 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: D Rider

I said nothing about the mechanism of origin of life, or evolution. We know very little about those subjects and most of what we do know is probably wrong.


73 posted on 03/09/2018 1:26:54 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Hi jennifer lawrence! *waves*


74 posted on 03/09/2018 3:10:37 PM PST by Trillian
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To: Simon Green

The answer is McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell...


75 posted on 03/09/2018 3:38:09 PM PST by Rad_J
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...
Thanks Simon Green.
 
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76 posted on 03/10/2018 4:30:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To Pluto -- And Far Beyond "To Pluto And Far Beyond" By David H. Levy, Parade, January 15, 2006 -- We don't have a dictionary definition yet that includes all the contingencies. In the wake of the new discovery, however, the International Astronomical Union has set up a group to develop a workable definition of planet. For our part, in consultation with several experienced planetary astronomers, Parade offers this definition: A planet is a body large enough that, when it formed, it condensed under its own gravity to be shaped like a sphere. It orbits a star directly and is not a moon of another planet.

77 posted on 03/10/2018 4:32:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Red Badger
Well, that’s a deep subject...................

It is? How do you know? Did you measure??

78 posted on 03/10/2018 4:35:06 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Simon Green
How Did Uranus Form?

And more importantly, are there Klingons surrounding it?

79 posted on 03/10/2018 4:36:08 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks Simon Green.


Newfound Moons Tell Secrets of Solar System
by Henry Fountain
August 12, 2003
The fact that most of the satellites' orbits are retrograde and eccentric speaks volumes about their origins: They had to have come from elsewhere, and been captured by the planets at some point. If they formed at the same time as the planets, from the spinning nebular disk, their orbits would be nearly circular and in the same direction as the planets' rotation, like the "regular" moons... In the case of the irregular satellites, they could not have shifted from an orbit around the Sun to an orbit around one of the giant planets without slowing down -- through friction in an atmosphere, perhaps; the influence of gravity; or a collision with another object... But there are two other possibilities for capture, Dr. Nesvorny said. One is that rapid growth of the core led to a corresponding increase in gravity, enough to pull down a nearby object. The other is that captured objects were a result of a collision between two planetesimals, the force of the collision being enough to dissipate the energy of at least one of them. Either of these two theories may be a more likely explanation for the satellites of Uranus and Neptune, which formed differently from Jupiter and Saturn, without the large amounts of gas.
Retrograde satellites lose momentum to the parent body and slowly spiral inward, which puts an upper limit (possibly not considered by these researchers) on the length of time the retrograde moons have spent as satellites, and obviously, will spend as satellites.
How Jupiter Got Big
by Leslie Mullen
June 2, 2002
The traditional view is that Jupiter first formed a rocky core, several times the size of Earth, which then attracted a still larger outer envelope of gas. This process is known as "accretion." But there are problems with this model. The major problem is that if the large, gaseous planet did form by the gradual accretion of material, it would have taken a very long time to develop. Current estimates range between 10 million and 1 billion years. However, recent observations of distant stars suggest that planets have at most a few million years or less to gather up as much dust and gas as they can before the protoplanetary disk that feeds them disappears.
It's remarkable and ironic how using logic to proceed from invalid assumptions leads later people to surprises when actual observations are done in attempts to verify the old models.
Jupiter gave birth to Uranus and Neptune
by Dr David Whitehouse
(circa 2001)
Not too long ago, scientists regarded the orbits that the planets circle our Sun as being the ones they were born in. Now they are realising that this is not the case. Uranus and Neptune may have migrated outwards and Jupiter may have come in from the outer cold. Scientists have always been slightly puzzled by the positions of Uranus and Neptune because in their present locations it would have taken longer than the age of the Solar System for them to form. Scientists from Queen's University suggest that the four giant planets started out as rocky cores in the Jupiter-Saturn region, and that the cores of Uranus and Neptune were tossed out by Jupiter's and Saturn's gravity.
Jupiter's Composition Throws Planet-formation Theories into Disarray
by Robert Roy Britt
Nov 17 1999
Examining four-year-old data, researchers have found significantly elevated levels of argon, krypton and xenon in Jupiter's atmosphere that may force a rethinking of theories about how the planet, and possibly the entire solar system, formed. Prevailing theories of planetary formation hold that the sun gathered itself together in the center of a pancake-shaped disk of gas and dust, then the planets begin to take shape by cleaning up the leftovers. In Jupiter's current orbit, 5 astronomical units from the sun, temperatures are too warm for the planetesimals to have trapped the noble gases. Only in the Kuiper belt -- a frigid region of the solar system more than 40 AU from the sun -- could planetesimals have trapped argon, krypton and xenon.

While lead researcher Tobias Owen does not put much stock in the idea that Jupiter might have migrated inward to its present position, other scientists on the team say the idea merits consideration. Owen expects the probes will find similarly high levels of noble gases in Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Hints of these gases have even been found in the thick atmosphere of Venus, another planet now begging more study.
Did Jupiter Bully Other Planets in Sibling Rivalry?
by Robert Roy Britt
8 December 1999
One possible explanation, discussed in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature, is that Uranus and Neptune formed much closer to the center of the action than their current positions might indicate. In this scheme, Jupiter and Saturn were bullies of a protoplanetary playground, shoving the other two future giants out of the way.

80 posted on 03/10/2018 4:45:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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