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To: schurmann

Gunsmith (former Marine gunsmith) friend of mine mis-remembered that I was looking for a Sig P232 in stainless, and gave me a Christmas gift of a Walther PPK/S.

Jamming problems always. Sent back to Walther for repair, their repair SEEMED to fix the jams, but I just could never trust the weapon. Waited a few years, sold it with whole story, got my Sig P232 in stainless with Sig Night Sites and Hogue grips - Never a jam, and FAR more accurate.....love it....

No longer made, and the P238 (.380) and P938 (9mm) are great pistols, but I love the feel and handling of the P232 more than either....


66 posted on 03/02/2018 5:58:53 PM PST by Arlis
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To: Arlis

“... a Christmas gift of a Walther PPK/S. Jamming problems ... repair SEEMED to fix ... could never trust ... got my Sig P232 ... Never a jam, and FAR more accurate.....love it....”

All handling qualities are in some measure subjective, but the P232 has to top the list. I’ve a 232 in 32 ACP with a manual safety; said to be an overrun from a Japanese police contract. Unremarkable accuracy - frequently the case with 32 compared to 380, otherwise superior in every aspect, and by huge margins.

Never encountered enough German-made PPK or PPK/S in 380 to get a clear picture. The American-made PPK/S are heavily correlated with poor reliability.

380 seems to have earned a reputation as a nasty kicker. Much of it stems from the PPK/S, which used to be attributed to its straight blowback design. Not limited that way, though: many users report more intense felt recoil from the SIG P238 than from the P938. Both are very similar locked-breech systems.

Picked up an original PP 40 years ago - war souvenir. Exterior finish was rough, but internals were great. Aside from warping grip panels of 1941-vintage German plastic, it’s been flawless. Far more accurate than the average 32.


76 posted on 03/03/2018 6:28:49 PM PST by schurmann
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