Posted on 02/24/2018 11:08:44 AM PST by i_robot73
First, excuse if I posted incorrectly, I don't do so very often...
Non-hunter here, looking for some opinion(s) on acquiring my first hunting rifle; FIL been hounding last year or two to go out.
Least from my own research, taking into account cost of gun and of training ($/bullet), it seems to come down to two:
- .308 - 30.-06
I'd like to get some other's thoughts as well as any helpful suggestions on make/model, additions (scope, ??), etc.
Appreciate.
I agree with you. A .223 would not be a cartridge typical hunters should be encouraged to use for medium game.
Yep!
Yep.mstarting to feel ecery ounce.
I personally know a man who harvests cull deer for meat using a .17 HMR round. [headshots only] I’ve never seen anyone use a .223/5.56 for deer hunting.
Well, I went off my recollection when I lived up North in years past. Ohio allowed only shotgun for deer gun season, and PA allowed rifles but no semi-auto (unless you were disabled). Quick googles gave these, although whether they are current I didn’t pursue. Any hunter must know his local laws, because they do change! In addition, sometimes there is a difference in what can be used on “public” lands (wildlife game lands or management areas) and “private” lands—seems like I recall that Turkey can be hunted with rifle on private lands in some states, but shotgun only on public lands.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=34&div=0&chpt=23&sctn=22&subsctn=0
snip: “(title 34)§ 2322. Prohibited devices and methods.
(a) General rule.—Except as otherwise provided in this title or commission regulation, no person shall hunt, kill or take or attempt, aid, abet, assist or conspire to hunt, kill or take any big game, except wild turkey, with any of the following devices or methods:
(1) Any device other than a centerfire or muzzle-loading firearm or bow and arrow.
(2) Any automatic or semiautomatic firearm, except that any semiautomatic firearm modified to permit one shell in the chamber and no more than four shells in a magazine may be used by a person who suffered an amputation or lost the total use of one or both hands. “
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/hunting-trapping-and-shooting-sports/hunting-trapping-regulations/deer-hunting-regulations
snip: “(allowable hunting equipment, season, legal deer hunting equipment) Shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition).
Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger.
Muzzleloading shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller using one ball per barrel.
Handgun: With 5-inch minimum length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger.
Straight-walled cartridge rifles in the following calibers: New this year! All straight-walled cartridge calibers from a minimum of .357 to a maximum of .50. Shotguns and straight-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined.”
Sorry, the above was in reply to the person saying he hadn’t heard that some states don’t allow semi-auto rifle for deer hunting. I should have quoted the person’s query. I don’t know how to edit a previously submitted post, or I would have done that.
A “.17 HMR round.”? Where is that legal? Even for cull bucks?
Must be a damned good shot I’d be afraid of just getting a glancing shot and it run off maimed.
Is this about these “canned hunts” that have become popular these days? What’s to brag about from that. A guaranteed kill(shaking my head) Like boasting of shooting fish in a barrel.
I just don’t understand people nowadays.
He and his buds make a bunch of sausage each year and does are culled at the end of the season. If you want to call it a “canned hunt” I suppose it is. They come to the feeder and he takes them.
“Canned” hunting is where the animals “in pursuit” and in a fence in area of various size in which say animal cannot escape.
What you friend does is a baited “field” where the animal is drawn in by the bait. Depending on what/where and when and what is defined as “baited”, it is illegal in Tennessee to hunt in a “baited” field.
A crop planted in order to lure the game animal is a baited field
A crop planted in order to harvest(even if it “isn’t) is not a “baited field”a baited field and is legal.
Crazy but game laws often are.
Feeders are not illegal in TX and are often working all year long to fatten up the game [all sorts of game] IMO, a much safer way to hunt.
On big ranches here, does are herded into pens and harvested as a part of the overall game management. I don’t like it but, the sheer number of deer make it necessary.
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