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To: gaijin

Actually when Portuguese explorers arrived in sub-Saharan Africa, there were numerous cities all built of wood; there was fresh water piped into homes as well as a sewer system - the pipes were made out of wood. The Portuguese Empire was the crown of European Civilization at the time. The explorers sent word back to the Crown asking permission to remain as the living conditions were so much better in those cities (running water in home and sewers were unknown in all of Europe then).

However, with the introduction of the trade of firearms to local mussulman slavers the cities were raided and destroyed. The jungle destroyed what remained.

People need to remember that prior to the mussulman conquest in the 7th and 8th centuries northern and costal African civilizations were well developed and ahead of anything in Europe at the time. After the conquest, nothing remained and people were reduced to savagery and squalor, the condition they remained in when the slave trade expanded to the Americas.


17 posted on 02/11/2018 6:42:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

“costal African civilizations were well developed and ahead of anything in Europe at the time”

You just went too far, I call BS on that one.


33 posted on 02/11/2018 7:01:04 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: PIF; gaijin
Actually when Portuguese explorers arrived in sub-Saharan Africa, there were numerous cities all built of wood; there was fresh water piped into homes as well as a sewer system - the pipes were made out of wood. The Portuguese Empire was the crown of European Civilization at the time. The explorers sent word back to the Crown asking permission to remain as the living conditions were so much better in those cities (running water in home and sewers were unknown in all of Europe then).

However, with the introduction of the trade of firearms to local mussulman slavers the cities were raided and destroyed. The jungle destroyed what remained.

People need to remember that prior to the mussulman conquest in the 7th and 8th centuries northern and costal African civilizations were well developed and ahead of anything in Europe at the time. After the conquest, nothing remained and people were reduced to savagery and squalor, the condition they remained in when the slave trade expanded to the Americas.

Thanks for the clarification. The moment I read it, I knew that gaijin's characterization was a little too tidy. There's no need for such exaggeration...

36 posted on 02/11/2018 7:05:41 AM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: PIF

And who exactly were these tribes with the running water in their homes?


89 posted on 02/11/2018 12:38:13 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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