Posted on 02/01/2018 1:45:27 PM PST by Morgana
Looks like the result of a nose bleed.
Okay, you didn't. I have ... when Frank cut his finger, when Tom got a cut on his scalp, when Bill walked his face into the kitchen cabinet while he was texting.
Immediately. In the geological sense.
Hmmm. Was this a government school?
Buehler? Buehler?
A bloody nose can do that. One of our sons was a bleeder in his middle school years. The slightest knock on his nose and hed hustle to the bathroom with his cupped hands full of blood-if measured it would have been close to a full cup and blood would still be flowing. The bathroom would look like a murder scene-blood everywhere. This happened often enough (wrestling and football are our familys sports) that none of us blinked an eye and I worried more about the new carpet than him. He just made a plug out of tissues and went on with his day.
The amount of blood on the sidewalk might not indicate severe injury-especially since the photo showed them attending to the boys face.
I coached high school and college football for several years...I’ve been in fights and seen fights...That’s most blood I’ve seen ever for someone as young as a middle school child...
Also, my whole point earlier was that with that much blood I doubt there was an “immediate” stop by the policeman...
Not prepared to blame the teacher. Why didn’t the kid find the teacher after school and ask what he had done to take care of it? Why didn’t he call his parents and ask for an escort home? Nor does it say how far from the school the altercation happened. I am no fan of public school teachers but I don’t think this should be a case of shaming a teacher instead of the bully himself.
Nevertheless, where a BULLY is concerned--I don't think it's, per se, a fight of equals.
Typically it is a bully from a big degree of attachment disorder feel compelled to attack--often relentlessly, mercilessly--some kid who is somehow different and the difference is perceived as intolerable by the bully.
imho, that's not a fair fight between equals. It is a seriously RAD, ANGRY, PRICKLY, VIOLENT, etc. troubled BULLY determined to strike out at almost any likely nearby victims.
I don't think a "let em go at it" fight of equals is involved in such cases.
And, I don't think pretending that a BULLY CAN participate in a fair-fight of equals will solve much of anything. The Bully needs to be held accountable AND get some serious prolonged treatment--as likely do his parents also need long term treatment.
I agree, regardless of the specifics of the disability. I have a profound opposition to all institutional schooling, partly because it forces children into environments that adults would never accept for themselves.
My point all along has been that this is what school is like, what it's always been like.
Reminds me of an incident that happened to me in Junior High (now called Middle School) PE class. We had been playing softball when a student (I still remember his name), unprovoked, threw a softball (not that soft) hard into the back of my head. I turned to complain and asked why he did it, whereupon he hit me in the face. I could have (should have?) fought him after that but I decided to tell the PE teacher (coach)instead, which I did. He merely shrugged and said “you’re not hurt are you?” and walked off.
Married to a football and wrestling coach, Ive seen blood like that from one arm bar to the nose. If a kid gets hit in the nose even once before intervention then there will be blood. The younger the kids, the more blood there is-maybe kids have thinner blood?
My point is that we make assumptions that may or may not be true based on limited information.
No one should be unsafe at school, but blood on the sidewalk like that doesnt necessarily mean he suffered lacerations. It could mean a single punch to the nose before an adult intervenes. My husband happened to notice a kid with his arm pulled back ready to punch another kid. He grabbed the kids elbow and pulled him back and the mouthy little kid yelled,my mom will sue! My husband is a big guy and not easily intimidated so just responded to go right ahead. That was over 10 years ago. The new principal would most likely discipline the teacher who touched the kid before he hit another. There are rules that hamstring school employees and there nasty kids who know it and take advantage of it.
Not disagreeing with anyone...Just stating that in all my years, I haven’t seen that much blood from a kids fight...
Why are **children** expected to cope with conditions that for adults would end in restraining orders, criminal charges, and court rewards of millions.
Agreed.
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