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To: bramps
...." what would happen to somebody if they came into a Mason meeting and preached about what Jesus Christ taught"....

Religion and politics are forbidden in the Lodge. Talk about what you want in the parking lot. Many Masons are preachers and know full well what Jesus taught. Converting people in the Lodge is not one of the missions of the Lodge. It IS about helping widows and orphans. Who does that sound like? It IS about helping your fellow man. Who does that sound like.

Like I said before, being a Mason is about good men becoming better and it is based on works. If you are a Christian, aren't you required to do works? Works don't save you, but if you are saved, you are saved to do works for the Kingdom.

The liberal attitude about religions in the Masons is to try to remove as much friction as possible to get things done. If you worry about helping a widow and orphan because they are Hindu, then you don't really care about your fellow man. A Christian missionary goes to foreign lands to help whoever is there, not to just help the Christians he finds there. It is a mistake to think the Masonic lodge teaches a religion. What they teach is character and generosity. If you give money to the Shriner's hospital, the money goes to help children of any race or religion at no cost to the parents. Many of the people that work there give their time freely.

There are so many false rumors about Freemasonry that almost nobody even looks at them anymore. Our country was built on many of their principles and almost all of the founders that I know of were Christians and Masons. 29 of the original 55 signers were pastors or at least ordained ministers. It's not right to say all Masons are Christian, but most American and European Mason are. Many have compared Masons with Christianity and have a problem that we don't push Jesus as the Savior. As a Christian, I will tell you Jesus is the only way. But as a Mason, I might not even mention Him. All you have to to is confess a belief in God to be a Mason. Many that have confessed belief in a god, end up as a Christian before long. We are just told that we can't argue and dispute about religious things in the Lodge.

We take an oath to keep the secrets of the Lodge, so Catholics have a problem with a person that won't confess Lodge business with their priests. Otherwise, I'm sure there would be many Catholics in the ranks.

Rumors,lies, and whispering have harmed the Masons over the years, but they go on and help people anyway. If people would look at it more like the Lion's club instead of some Satanic cult meeting a coven of witches, maybe more American males would grow up to be real men instead of whimpering whelps playing video games in moms basement. Do a study on prominent Masons in American history and then tell me they are all Satan worshiping demon possessed imps that hate Jesus. It's just NOT TRUE! There could be the odd Mason that was arrested for something just like there could be a CCL holder arrested for a bad shooting. People are people. I'm just saying Freemasonry is a positive influence on the men of America and should be encouraged.

One more thing, many people that tried to become a Mason have been turned down for whatever reason. They go back to your days in High School and you better pay your bills. Your arrest record is checked. They will contact friends you haven't seen in 20 years. Most are blackballed because they failed to pay their bills, or went to jail. When these people are refused entry into the Lodge, they spread rumors and lies about the Lodge. They aren't used to being judged by others. Everyone has an excuse why they had their truck repossessed or that night they hit their wife with a chair. What if they find you got a girl pregnant and are not paying child support? There are as many reasons you can't be a Mason as there are stars in the sky. In the final vote for the Lodge, you could be "black balled" just because someone doesn't like your attitude. It's a club, and we get to decide who gets in. If it's found you don't cut the mustard, many hold grudges their whole life and can't move on. That is one reason we didn't want them. They will spend their life badmouthing something they know nothing about. If someone wants to find out about Masonry, ask one. Chances are you will find out in the first 10 minutes if you even qualify to be one. You may not even want to keep the rules of the lodge. Another thing, no matter what anyone tells you, it helps to have a little money. It may not be fair and not very pretty, but there will be many activities that require a few bucks. If they hand you some tickets to sell, you buy them and decide if you want to make the effort to sell them. You don't have to sell them but you sure did buy them. People on fixed incomes need to be well fixed, as they say. The Blue Lodge isn't so bad, but the Shriner's generally have money.

122 posted on 01/29/2018 9:43:05 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Umkay.

So you are saying that both Reverend Charles Finney and President John Q Adams were wrong about freemasonry?

I think not, unless you can refute Finney’s moral reasons against the Lodge, especially for Christians.

Adams enacted laws against the first Globalist elites, the murderous Freemasons, because he knew it was an actual conspiracy of darkness.

Sorry if you haven’t done your homework on the history of Masonry. It will keep you out of heaven, as you are adding to the Gospel new texts and new beliefs and this is strictly forbidden.


128 posted on 01/29/2018 2:00:55 PM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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