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Russia warns Poland not to touch Soviet WW2 memorials
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40775355 ^ | July 2017

Posted on 01/28/2018 12:32:58 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose

The Red Army's defeat of Nazi German forces on Polish soil in 1944-1945 remains a thorny issue in Russian-Polish relations.

Many Poles viewed the Red Army as an occupation force, not as liberators, as the 1939 Nazi-Soviet pact had carved up Poland between two dictatorships.

Poland updated its "de-communisation" legislation, banning "totalitarian" symbols, which would include Soviet propaganda monuments.

The Russian foreign ministry condemned the new Polish "de-communisation" law as "an outrageous provocation", and warned of unspecified "consequences".

"The USSR paid the highest price to liberate Poland - on that country's soil, in battles with the enemy, more than 600,000 Soviet soldiers and officers died and were buried. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet prisoners of war, who died in Nazi concentration camps, also lie in Polish soil," the ministry said.

The Russian government has warned Poland that it will face sanctions if it removes monuments glorifying the Soviet victory in World War Two.

In 2007, Estonia's removal of a Red Army statue in its capital Tallinn sparked a violent protest by Russian speakers and a massive cyber attack on Estonian official websites. Russian hackers were blamed for that attack.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: blackmail; coldwar; communism; estonia; europe; hitler; holocaust; intimidation; katyn; katynmassacre; nazis; poland; redarmy; russia; soviets; sovietunion; stalin; ukraine; warsaw; worldwarii; wwii
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1 posted on 01/28/2018 12:32:58 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Russians can go blank themselves on this one.


2 posted on 01/28/2018 12:34:13 PM PST by dfwgator
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"The USSR paid the highest price to liberate Poland - on that country's soil, in battles with the enemy, more than 600,000 Soviet soldiers and officers died and were buried. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet prisoners of war, who died in Nazi concentration camps, also lie in Polish soil," the ministry said.

*cough* Katyn *cough*

3 posted on 01/28/2018 12:34:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: sasportas

*ping*


4 posted on 01/28/2018 12:36:31 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

They tried to subjugate them as slaves of ethnic russians and not for their liberation.


5 posted on 01/28/2018 12:36:43 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I’m so sick of Russians and their thug boss. They’re obnoxious in whatever country they exist.


6 posted on 01/28/2018 12:36:52 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: GoldenState_Rose

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_Poland_(1944–1947)


7 posted on 01/28/2018 12:39:12 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Put them on flatbeds and send them back to Russia.


8 posted on 01/28/2018 12:39:33 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Outrageous.

“Liberate”?

Not even close.

Just replaced Nazis with Communists.


9 posted on 01/28/2018 12:43:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Even if USSR didn’t occupy Poland for 50+ years,they “Liberated” Poland for self interest reasons not altruistic ones.

Screw ‘em.


10 posted on 01/28/2018 12:44:32 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
The USSR paid the highest price to liberate Poland - on that country's soil

They did a great job liberating Poland from the Polish in 1939.

11 posted on 01/28/2018 12:46:33 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: jospehm20
No, Poland should tell the Russians to make arrangements to have them shipped back by, say, the end of September, otherwise, they can bid for them on Ebay after that.

(Then they'll have to compete against Seattle, Chicago, NYC, ... for them.

12 posted on 01/28/2018 12:48:37 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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I would leave the soldier’s graves undisturbed but the monuments should go. The Soviets didn’t liberate anyone.


13 posted on 01/28/2018 12:57:31 PM PST by henkster (YA - russkiy bot)
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I would leave the soldier’s graves undisturbed but the monuments should go.

On this I agree.

14 posted on 01/28/2018 12:59:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: henkster; dfwgator

Graves of soldiers not included in this endeavor.


15 posted on 01/28/2018 1:00:22 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

When I visited Normandy a few years ago, I visited the American cemetery.

I did not know until I saw it, but there is a very impressive cemetery nearby for the German soldiers who fell, still very well maintained, though I suspect it doesn’t get many visitors.


16 posted on 01/28/2018 1:04:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GoldenState_Rose

To be fair, the Russians lost a lot of people fighting the Nazis including in Poland. But then they became almost as bad if not worse than the Nazis in Poland. Basically, the Polish got killed, raped, and otherwise abused by both the Russians and the Nazis.

To sum up: Hey Poland, do what you want to do. Screw the Russian objections.


17 posted on 01/28/2018 1:05:14 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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Stalin had little care for the Russians he sent into battle.


18 posted on 01/28/2018 1:07:20 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To be fair, the Russians lost a lot of people fighting the Nazis including in Poland

They certainly didn't lose any while they waited on the other side of the Wisla, while the Nazis were eliminating the remains of the AK during the '44 Warsaw Uprising.

And this after the Soviets gave the signal to the AK to rise up and that they would soon be there to liberate them.

The Soviets knew what they were doing.

19 posted on 01/28/2018 1:07:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GoldenState_Rose
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20 posted on 01/28/2018 1:13:49 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama)
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