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To: chris37

If I read your response right you do not reject faith, but perhaps you reject the organized (some might call it corporate) church. In that you would probably find much sympathy and agreement among followers of Christ. The body of believers make up the “church” that Jesus talked about - not denominations or buildings. These institutions have often behaved just like the government you despise.

With regards to the government.... it is a necessary evil and in our nation, unlike many, it is a reflection of us. Division = power and both parties have played the game very well. If we were not so divided our politicians would be far less wealthy. It has reached a point where there is little agreement over anything and sadly, the left has ultimately played the game much better than the right. They control the media, academia to include primary schools, and of course, as always throughout history the drivers of culture. In a nation that is self-absorbed and lacks reason, this is a force that will ultimately win. This must be the only reason why those on the far left in government keep overplaying their hand. They are losing at the moment, but they believe they have the better hand in the long run. We believe we have the better plan, but too few are hearing it.

FRegards


268 posted on 01/26/2018 10:38:28 PM PST by volunbeer ("I will appoint a special prosecutor to look into your (Hillary) situation" - Trump - we are waiting)
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To: volunbeer

I don’t reject faith at all. I can’t. Jesus Christ saved my life when I prayed to him and asked Him to. Since that time, He has been visibly active in my life in a number of ways and many times. For whatever reason, a reason I cannot figure out, He cares about me and wants me here for some purpose, because I should have been gone many times now.

Unfortunately, as far as religion goes, all of my experiences with it have been quite negative in as much as almost every overtly religious person that I have met has been evil. And they purposely veil themselves behind religion to gain access to good and trusting people for the purpose of getting whatever they can get from them. They literally used it as a disguise, and it worked.

I’m not saying that religion serves no purpose in society though, because it does. if I did not have the blessings of parents who took me to church as a child, I may not have known whom to pray to when the time for praying came, and I would have died.

But seeing this pattern with overtly religious people being evil occur fairly frequently jaded me on religion, and it seemed to me that it is a tool of man used to control other men. And it’s secondary purpose is money. I don’t think churches would exist if money didn’t exist, at least not today.

For me personally, I met Jesus at the bottom of a deep, dark pit that I dug with my own hands. There was no one else down there but me, and I asked Him to give me the Strength to pull myself up out of it, and He did, so I did.

Because of that circumstance, it became clear to me that I need no other person in order to love Jesus, and in order to be loved by Jesus. If I was the last person on this earth, I would not be alone, because He is there, in me, because one day I finally let Him in.

I’m sure that many would disagree with my outlook on that, but these are what my experiences taught me, so I must go with that. I generally keep my beliefs to myself, but if someone asks me do I believe, I tell them yes, and if they query me further, I’ll tell them why. but I am not interested in converting or convincing people or anything like that. We come to these revelations when we come to them, and some never do. It wasn’t time for them yet.


270 posted on 01/26/2018 11:07:26 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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