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Does the NSA really have the capability of recording and storing every phone call, email, text, etc?

Posted on 01/22/2018 6:18:35 PM PST by SamAdams76

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To: SamAdams76

I have a university colleague who has a son-in-law that works for the NSA outside of D.C. that does this. According to him and what his son-in-law has claimed and asserted, yes, indeed they have the capability.


41 posted on 01/22/2018 8:11:33 PM PST by cranked
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To: SamAdams76

They do, and even offered them to the FBI. The FBI refused to take them.


42 posted on 01/22/2018 8:26:58 PM PST by GingisK
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To: cranked

they no doubt intercept and store all packets along the fiber backbone.

the question is: for how long do they store them? since the beginning of the internet?

you all have to remember the internet was created by the military and no doubt at least all early communication was logged.


43 posted on 01/22/2018 8:30:14 PM PST by varyouga
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To: SamAdams76
A petabyte is 1,000 terrabytes and finally a terrabyte is 1,000 gigabytes.

The author obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

Regards,

44 posted on 01/22/2018 9:10:00 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Gene Eric
The issue is Constitutionality,

Unfortunately, constitutionality is whatever the courts say it is.

45 posted on 01/22/2018 9:35:39 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: SamAdams76

25 years ago I bought 11 pallets of 1gig hard drives and had to call a friend .

“Who the he’ll needs a 1gig drive” I asked.

Be pointed me in the right direction and I was able to sell them for a Yuge profit.

Now they store exabytes...like you said ...


46 posted on 01/22/2018 9:37:22 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Mariner

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032748/posts
Telecom History and How We got

My dissertation on givernment spying on Americans throughout the age of telecom...


47 posted on 01/22/2018 9:43:28 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SpaceBar

Nope.

See my dissertation from Snowden

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032748/posts


48 posted on 01/22/2018 9:45:08 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: aimhigh

True, and the perps know everything about us, and we know little about them.


49 posted on 01/22/2018 10:38:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

In the 60’s ! You were deep state before deep state was cool !!


50 posted on 01/22/2018 11:53:18 PM PST by onona
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To: SamAdams76

The conversations are turned into text. How much storage space does text take?


51 posted on 01/23/2018 2:31:51 AM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: Mariner
"It used to be computers triggering on “key words” and “key persons” that would initiate a recording."

Have you heard about voice to text? That text does not need much room for digital storage. It is also easy to do word searches from text, as you know. Sophisticated software can do complex searches that find people-to-people interactions as well as personal descriptions of selected individuals, such as their health status.

52 posted on 01/23/2018 2:41:38 AM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: datura
In the 80s 60s and beyond,
53 posted on 01/23/2018 3:02:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Mariner

Snowden is an American Hero of similar stature to Paul Revere and George Washington.

Thank God he did what he did. Otherwise we would never know what the criminals in our government are up to.

Yes indeed! The Russians, the Chinese, North Koreans, ISIS and Iran are also putting him up for awards! Not every day that some insider like Eddy Snowjob comes along and releases some country’s Intel collection Methods and Means to to enemy nations.

At the same time fooling a credulous public into believing some small bit of the Intel he stole was the whole of it; and further that the small bit was secret but was actually had been in the public domain for decades. His mainland Chinese handlers were very proud of his abilities in following directions ...

Enemy nations everywhere took note of how utterly naive and credulous the American public at large actually is; knowledge that was capitalized on during the recent Presidential election by Facebook-going Russian GRU agents.


54 posted on 01/23/2018 3:13:38 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SamAdams76

Article IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What part of this don’t they understand?


55 posted on 01/23/2018 5:09:11 AM PST by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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To: WeWaWes

“the phone providers have the info.”

Definitely the texts — at least going back a couple years. Probably longer, from info I’ve seen on true crime solving documentaries, some of which are “cold” cases and, therefore, older.


56 posted on 01/23/2018 5:14:01 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: SamAdams76
They are well into zetabyte storage capacity at this point. What holds true with avionics also holds true with information technology - what we see is 20 years behind what is state of the art. Basically, they are capable of stashing "everything"...carefully consider the implications of that word.

There are two reasons for this - the first is for nefarious purposes, power and control. It is one thing to actually store this data - and it is quite something else to be able to retrieve and analyze it. AI is playing a much larger role in that aspect, with indexation, retrieval and projection/prediction as its main function.

The second reason has some interesting implications - it is a backup. Think of it as information equivalent to the Svalbard Global Seed Vault.

These are suppositions on my part, but, my bonafides include 40 years in IT engineering and sysdev (the last 17 with the preeminent database software corp.), CISSP, DBA, etc.

57 posted on 01/23/2018 5:44:24 AM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: Freedom4US
Do you understand how many reel to reel decks that would take?...and how much magnetic tape? I will bet that 3M or whomever could never produce that much tape back then!

How it works is that there are servers that see EVRY IP address and they're set up to flag key words. All the FBI, etc. did with Trump is monitor certain IP addresses. No wires are being tapped! I think Trump purposefully said that to see if someone would respond and correct him!

58 posted on 01/23/2018 5:47:47 AM PST by gr8eman (Facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
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To: SamAdams76

“Having” is a concept whose utility varies based upon the next term: “accessing”.

There was a good article in Wired a few years back. It talked about the Data Center but also about the Tennessee facility and others that had to “query” the data. An analyst and programer team has to look for everything. It has to hunt the needle in the haystack. It has to stop looking for incoming missiles (or whatever that team is looking at) and look for FBI Texts.


59 posted on 01/23/2018 5:51:36 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: SamAdams76

Those ‘smart TVs’ do all kinds of things. So do phones and watches and those things you can buy to put in your house. Little cameras in businesses, too. Drones, street cameras.

I knew a guy once who specifically told me that houses could not be designed to be ‘black box’ non-surveilable. He designed houses.


60 posted on 01/23/2018 5:54:27 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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