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Is the Second Amendment Unique?
American Thinker ^ | Dec 23, 2017 | Sam Bocetta

Posted on 12/23/2017 12:02:00 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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The country I currently live in, Spain, has an entire region held hostage because the citizens there decided it was a good idea to voluntarily disarm themselves and put their faith in government to protect them.
1 posted on 12/23/2017 12:02:00 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Absolutely it IS!

It didn't take much detective work to figure out. Every form of repressive govt has ALWAYS disarmed the citizenry!

2 posted on 12/23/2017 12:05:04 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes, it is the only Amendment to the United States Constitution that uses the phrase “Shall Not Be Infringed”.

That phrase is not even used to protect the Constitutional Right to Free Speech.


3 posted on 12/23/2017 12:08:21 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Islamophobia, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

It didn't take much detective work to figure out. Every form of repressive govt has ALWAYS disarmed the citizenry!

Does ANY other country restrict gun possession equal or less than the US?


4 posted on 12/23/2017 12:12:19 AM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes. It is very difficult for our government to,get rid of rights its supposed to preserve for us in one easy swoop, like othe countries can do with just a change in leadership.

Of course many will try. And keep trying.

The states/fed model works pretty well compared to other setups.


5 posted on 12/23/2017 1:52:55 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“Specifically, the English Bill of Rights of 1689 codified what was regarded as a natural right to self-defense.”

I wonder what happened to THEIR Bill of Rights that got them so far weened off of guns? But there is an obvious warning (if the last 70 years hasn’t been enough of a warning) - those God-given rights CAN be reduced/taken away by evil people in government.

With regard to countries with looser regulations, any number of countries in Africa and the Mid-East come to mind, with everyone running around with AK-47s and such.


6 posted on 12/23/2017 2:08:53 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: 21twelve

With regard to countries with looser regulations, any number of countries in Africa and the Mid-East come to mind, with everyone running around with AK-47s and such.

Kind of like Chicago?


7 posted on 12/23/2017 2:15:16 AM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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YES!

https://www.deseretnews.com/top/2519/9/Iraq-15-nations-with-the-highest-gun-ownership.html

Iraq is #7 in gun ownership. The site says weapons are supposed to be registered, but most probably aren’t.

The USA is highest in ownership. Excerpt:

“While the U.S. houses less than 5 percent of the world’s population, the country has approximately 35-50 percent of civilian-owned guns worldwide, according to the Council on Foreign Relations.”


8 posted on 12/23/2017 2:33:40 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

We’re unique in one more way, that ties into this discussion and the NEED for the second amendment. Unlike most every other nation on earth, we do not share a common ethnicity. Even in places often torn by tribal or sectarian violence, there is more racial commonality than the US has.
People will tell you this doesn’t matter, but it does. Our system is designed to empower the individual above the group or “identity”... The second amendment lets that idea work.


9 posted on 12/23/2017 2:37:33 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The idea that a freeman has a right to be armed goes back further. The Anglo-Saxons, like many tribes in the Volkerwanderung,believed in a nation in arms, and that the right to carry weapons was a distinction enjoyed by a freeman.
The Anglo-Saxon Fyrd, or militia was based on this idea. Even in the time if Henry VIII, all freeman were required to own abd be proficient with, a longbow.


11 posted on 12/23/2017 2:54:43 AM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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Good points about the history of the militia.

And in the amendment, ‘well regulated’ meant ‘well trained’ — not— ‘over-legislated’ (thus the ‘shall not be infringed).


12 posted on 12/23/2017 3:19:45 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: selfdefense

That’s not registry. Those records aren’t kept for as long as you seem to think. There is no federal database for arms ownership.


13 posted on 12/23/2017 3:20:42 AM PST by This_Dude
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To: This_Dude; selfdefense
selfdefense is correct though: since we are required to submit to a "background check" we are letting the government determine whether or not you can purchase a firearm and in some states, even possess a firearm.

Since the passing of the Brady Law, the reasons for denying permission to acquire a weapon have gone from restricting "felons and drug users and mental patients" to adding anyone convicted of a misdemeanor that would be a felony today and anyone accused of domestic abuse.

The reason "universal background checks" are the Holy Grail of liberal gun control is because they can restrict any sale, they can make the net tighter.

Infringement, right?

14 posted on 12/23/2017 3:40:24 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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The case for American exceptionalism is often overstated.

Mis-stated is more accurate. The concept (of our founding fathers) is correctly stated that the US is the exception in world history as a self-governing people with a constitution and governed under the rule of law. This is in contrast to the kings and tyrants of Europe and throughout history. Of course, the language and concept of American exceptionalism has changed over time, but that is due to ignorance about our country and institutions.

15 posted on 12/23/2017 3:41:18 AM PST by D Rider
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“There is no federal database for arms ownership”

Don’t bet on that. The ATF have been working on circumventing that by several methods. It may not be official and may not be complete, but you can bet a database exists.


16 posted on 12/23/2017 3:43:56 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I always argued that in defending the second amendment one should base their argument on the right of self defense. The right of self defense is the most basic right of all life and yet is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Bill of Rights. The express reason for raising a militia is not exclusive and a militia could be assembled for the purpose of self defense.


17 posted on 12/23/2017 4:05:05 AM PST by monocle
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To: 867V309

Does ANY other country restrict gun possession equal or less than the US?


Switzerland used to be less restrictive than the U.S. (from 1934 to 1998) In 1998 they bowed to European Union pressure and instituted controls that make them more restrictive than the U.S. in most areas, a little less restrictive in some.

Costa Rica used to be less restrictive than the U.S. They become more restrictive in the late 1970’s, as I recall.


18 posted on 12/23/2017 4:11:35 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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The African countries lacking western influence don’t have laws enforced, sometimes not even written, and near zero infrastructure, not to mention much of the population unable to read. No clean water, no sewer system, no electricity.””...”.....”


20 posted on 12/23/2017 4:21:32 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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