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To: Golden Eagle
I won't ask for evidence, because I'm sure you have none. Good bye!

Evidence is circumstantial, but if you remove emotion and coldly examine what can be observed - including the contrasting behaviors of the two sides - this is the only logical conclusion. Here's a cursory timeline that shapes the argument:

October 9, 2016. During the second presidential debate, Trump promised Hillary to her face "I didn't think I'd say this, but I'm going to say it and hate to say it: But if I win, I'm going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there has never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been anything like it. And we're going to have a special prosecutor."

January 13, 2017. President Trump nominates Rod Rosenstein, then United States Attorney for Maryland, to be Deputy Attorney General.

April 16, 2017. President Trump interviews Robert Mueller for the job of FBI director. This is odd, given that Mueller was then ineligible to hold the job. The 73-year-old Mueller had previously served 12 years as FBI director and had required Senate confirmation to serve beyond its 10-year statutory term limit. Then, the very next day...

April 17, 2017. Deputy AG Rosenstein appoints Mueller as special counsel - with curiously broader authority than its expected purpose required. Order Number 3915-2017 granted to Mueller the authority to investigate and prosecute the following:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R § 600.4(a)."

It is now apparent that President Trump knew two things early on:
1. Neither Trump nor his campaign ever colluded with the Russian government and had nothing to fear from any investigation; and
2. There was a mountain of evidence that Hillary Clinton and many of her swamp mates received bribes from Russia in exchange for one-fifth of America's uranium, and Mueller knew all about it - and the existence of a paid FBI informant - since he was FBI Director between 2001 and 2013.

Judging from the Swamp critters' panicked and unhinged behavior, it is apparent that the fix really was in with Robert Mueller - but not like they were led to believe. As Trump knew from the beginning, none of the evidence would implicate him, but would implicate his enemies instead. President Trump chose his man (Rosenstein) to appoint the man he had just interviewed (Mueller) to be special counsel - just as he promised Hillary back on October 9, 2016. Donald John Trump keeps his word.

47 posted on 12/22/2017 5:59:03 PM PST by Always A Marine ("I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation")
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To: Always A Marine
Evidence is circumstantial, but if you remove emotion and coldly examine what can be observed - including the contrasting behaviors of the two sides - this is the only logical conclusion.

Obviously I wasn't planning on replying, but I have to hand it to you. That is by far the best post supporting what is clearly an outlying theory, that no one outside of message boards is even considering as possible, that I have yet seen.

Yet it still falls empty based on everything we know. And to claim it is the "only logical conclusion" when it actually defies most logic, is by far your weakest part. I won't try to match your excellent formatting, and presentation, but will address each point.

Yes, Trump said he was going to appoint a special counsel to investigate Hillary. However, he also stated shortly after the election. Hopefully you remember this as well, so I don't have to find the links. But since your point is simply an assertion that Trump intended to do that, there is an equal and opposite assertion that he was not going to.

Yes, technically Trump nominated Rod Rosenstein. However, no one believes that Trump even knew he he was before he was appointed. Rosenstein's nomination was recommended by someone to Trump, most likely Jeff Sessions, since the position is the deputy to the AG. But the only reason the name Rosenstein became known to anyone, is because Trump has lambasted him, ever since. He's called him a Democrat, repeatedly, starting with Trump's famous tweet "I'm being investigated for firing the FBI director, by the person who told me to fire the FBI director! Witch Hunt!"

Yes Trump interviewed Mueller for FBI director, because Obama had already proven that any term limit of 10 years was false. Mueller was extended by Obama right in the middle of the Uranium One investigation, so anyone claiming that Mueller may have objected to Obama, or was being controlled by Obama, is wrong else Mueller wouldn't have agreed to that extension.

Rosenstein appointed his longtime associate Mueller to the special counsel position in less than 24 hours of being authorized to do so. According to reports, both Sessions and Trump were caught off guard, and per Trump himself the appointment was completely inappropriate due to multiple and obvious conflicts of interest. It's also been revealed that Mueller is currently operating under a DOJ waiver for conflict of interest, which makes it an obvious inappropriate appointment for a supposed "independent" special counsel.

Near the end you claim that none of the evidence would implicate Trump, yet we've seen Mueller already arrest 4 Trump associates, with strong indication that his son-in-law Kushner will be next. Do you really believe that Trump would have agreed, in advance, for 4 of his team members, including his campaign manager, and national security advisor, to be arrested in a misdirection ploy? It wouldn't have taken 4 of them for that, nor would there have been a need for a SWAT like raid on Manafort, etc. Yet still no SWAT raids on any Democrats, or FBI agents?

No, despite the points you have attempted to make, Mueller and the entire DOJ are clearly aligned against the President. McCabe and Strzok, who are known to have illegally prevented Hillary from ever being charged, still have jobs at the FBI. Sessions has publicly squabbled with the President and Congress constantly, trying to prevent any evidence of wrongdoing coming to light. All of your points are at least 9 months old, and the picture has become quite clear since that time.

My guess is you came to this conclusion back in April, per your timeline, and haven't really revisited it since. I suggest you do so now, starting with the revelation that Mueller's probe was a quote "insurance policy" that was put in motion by McCabe and others at the FBI, per the recent text messages from Strzok. McCabe's recent admission to the Committee that he couldn't verify basically anything in the dossier that was used to get the FISA warrant, that Trump exposed shortly after becoming President, is another huge hole in your theory that Trump approved of any of this. He was illegally surveilled, framed, and his family is now in danger of being arrested by an out of control prosecutor, that Trump himself has called a quote "democratic hit job."

I rest my case.

48 posted on 12/22/2017 7:33:46 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: Always A Marine

Thank you for your well researched post. Donald J. Trump does ALWAYS keep his word!


61 posted on 12/23/2017 8:32:13 AM PST by sissyjane
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