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“Aquaman is not a strong enough or interesting character to base a big movie on.”

Actually that is not true at all.. but WB won’t remotely rely on source material effectively.. the Aquaman in Justice League is not Aquaman... He’s not a rhoided out caricature... with the depth of a piece of paper.

The problem is WB just turned him into that character for JL... They really just don’t know how to respect the characters they are making movies based on......

Just like when they cast Ryan Reynolds years ago as Green Lantern... that was a Miss out of the gate...

They literally treat their characters like Poochie from that simspon’s episode... what traits generally test well with a focus group? Okay, lets find a character in our universe and just make him that... instead of what they are.

I completely agree, the character they showed in Justice League has all the depth of a soup spoon.... but the true character is far more interesting... like most of DC’s characters..

The whole Superman Vs Batman was full on example of this.... the makeup of those characters are what leads them to conflict in the original story... There is no manipulation by Luthor to get them in conflict, that was thrown in and it was stupid.... It was the motivations and world view of the 2 characters that sent them on a path for conflict that was the original story that film was based upon.

A pragmatic fatalist, who cannot help but see the potential evil and threat all around him, and a character who is virtually all powerful and puts faith in the system and always sees the good. That’s what drove the real story of the two into conflict... not some stupid idiotic manipulations by Luthor.

Actually that is not true at all.. but WB won’t remotely rely on source material effectively.. the Aquaman in Justice League is not Aquaman

My comic book time was Silver age through early Bronze Age, and as a DC fan in the 70s, read plenty of Golden Age reprints, including of the old Fawcett characters (hence my nom).

I know they did some reboot of Aquaman where he is more of a Poseidon-type character, which I guess would make him akin to Thor, but what you call the "Justice League" version was pretty much the same guy who had his own book in the sixties (as the JLA was presented in the 60s and 70s). Take him out of water, and the plot opportunities thin. Keep him in water, and the ability of us landlubbers to relate thins even more.

You are right about using the personalities of Superman and Batman as a motivation for conflict. I remember a World's Finest comic in the mid-70s where Supes and Batman come up a previously unknown tribe, living a primitive, but idealist life on the surface. Batman took a Calvinist approach and assumed they were depraved under the surface, while Superman took more of Rousseauian/Quaker assumption about their nature (I guess based on most of his experiences on Krypton and in Smallville growing up). I forgot how it was resolved, or if it was.

I find it interesting that Marvel hasn't (to my knowledge) thought of doing a Submariner movie. That character was WAY ahead of his time, being very much an anti-hero (WWII time doesn't count) even more than the early "vigilante" versions of Superman and Batman.

I really hope they don't try to pull off Captain Marvel (especially if they insist on calling him Shazam!). If they must, they better not pretend that Dr. Sivana is an evil businessman. He is an archetypal mad scientist. They might be better off with Mr. Mind. Most don't know who he is, and those who do will get a good chuckle out of him.