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Possible vestiges of a universe previous to the Big Bang
Science Daily ^ | 11/27/17

Posted on 11/27/2017 10:44:27 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: JimSEA
It would seem to me that an infinite series of contractions and expansions of the universe would be equally amenable to the existence of God as would the Big Bang

Which god do you speak of? Certainly this statement is not true of the Judeo-Christian God, whom I worship. He revealed in Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." None of this oscillation or cycling. Those are Buddhist ideas.

41 posted on 11/28/2017 10:23:36 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ( DJT won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Civil war before we get more?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

On that note I heard an interesting take on the age of the universe/earth thing -

If one believes that Jesus could do miracles, then when He changed water to wine, how old was the wine at that instant? If wine experts then or now were to examine the wine, wouldn’t they all agree that it was more then 5 minutes old?

So if God wanted something to look like it was 6000 or 6 zillion years old, I believe He could do it.

Why? Your guess is as good as mine.


42 posted on 11/28/2017 10:26:59 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Wuli
G-d can be behind a “bouncing” universe as easily as a big-bang universe; once one accepts that in the beginning - of “this” universe, or the previous/next one in the previous/next “bounce” - there was “nothing” and then there was light.

Nonsense. At least, such bouncing nonsense contradicts the Judeo-Christian Scriptures. These eggheads will never know what came before the beginning, so revelation is all we have. I'll stick with Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

43 posted on 11/28/2017 10:27:04 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ( DJT won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Civil war before we get more?)
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To: freedomlover
A 6,000 year old universe makes God a liar.

Check out Psalm 19. If the universe "pours forth knowledge" about God, and the universe is 6,000 years old but there are stars in our galaxy further away than 6,000 light years, it makes God a deceiver, a maker of false images. I reject that utterly. "God cannot lie" Hebrews 6:18.

44 posted on 11/28/2017 10:30:57 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ( DJT won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Civil war before we get more?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“At least, such bouncing nonsense contradicts the Judeo-Christian Scriptures.”

I don’t see it in conflict with the scriptures at all.

“In the beginning” of when? I think G-d is bigger than your imagination of what “in the beginning” can mean.


45 posted on 11/28/2017 10:35:08 AM PST by Wuli
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To: backwoods-engineer

I don’t believe God is a trickster either. He wouldn’t make things or processes seem like something they cannot be.


46 posted on 11/28/2017 10:42:40 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: WMarshal

See post nine.


47 posted on 11/28/2017 1:05:06 PM PST by Fungi (Fungi rule the world, no one knows it yet.)
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To: Fungi

Man, do you have an alarm or something?
It’s impossible to comment on a science
thread before you’re there bashing.
People who enjoy the benefits in every
aspect of their lives from spinoffs
of scientific research while condemning
it at every turn are worse than
ungrateful children.


48 posted on 11/28/2017 3:32:25 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Fungi
We are in total agreement.

One scientific mystery that I have always wondered about is the uneven ratio of antimatter to regular matter. I wonder if after a contraction, when everything is pure something else and there is a subsequent Big Bang, could matter and antimatter be created in equal amounts but not end up in the same dimensions? Explosions are never totally uniform and I have wondered if, when the universe expands into multiple dimensions, would each one get varying ratios of antimatter and matter?

49 posted on 11/28/2017 3:42:12 PM PST by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl. McLame cannot even fake an injury.)
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To: ThomasMore

God’s creation of the universe ex nihilo is not a matter that is accessible to science, but the universe is a proper subject for science, from the first instant of its existence.


50 posted on 11/28/2017 3:43:59 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY)
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To: sparklite2

It’s the “something.”


51 posted on 11/28/2017 7:10:02 PM PST by Fungi (Fungi rule the world, no one knows it yet.)
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