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Trump thinks Scientology should lose its tax-exempt status
The Hill ^ | November 9, 2017 | John Bowden

Posted on 11/09/2017 8:20:52 PM PST by EdnaMode

President Trump has thrown his support behind removing the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status, according to a HuffPost report.

Twitter messages from a Trump family friend and top official at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) claimed that Trump and his family "couldn't agree more" that the church should lose its tax-exempt status.

"From The moment I saw your series I told President Trump & his family we needed to revoke their tax exempt status. They couldn’t agree more, but please don’t publicize that yet," Lynne Patton wrote to actress Leah Remini in the messages obtained by HuffPost. “This is going to get done in the next 4 years or I’ll die trying. Knock on wood!”

Patton is a longtime friend and business associate of the Trump family who has worked with the Trumps since 2009. Last year, she spoke in support of Trump at the Republican National Convention in June.

Remini, who starred on the hit series "King of Queens," is behind the Emmy Award-winning show “Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.” Season two of the series is now airing. The show is a documentary examining the Church of Scientology and its alleged abuse of critics, which Remini left in 2013.

“I look forward to doing my part to help put an end to this ongoing nightmare and blatant misuse of our IRS rules & regulations," Patton wrote to Remini. "I want to do more research on Scientology’s history with the IRS, to date, so that I can better understand what tactics have been applied and where we can pick up."

It is unclear if Patton ever communicated with the IRS, and a request for comment from HuffPost was not immediately answered. Experts told HuffPost that such an urging from an administration official would likely be illegal.

“For the White House or any administration official to try and influence who the IRS targets, for whatever reason, is wrong and could result in a violation of the law,” said former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission Larry Noble. “The IRS must make these decisions independently without any influence by the White House or administration officials.”

The IRS website states that “the IRS may begin a church tax inquiry only if an appropriate high-level Treasury official reasonably believes, on the basis of facts and circumstances recorded in writing, that an organization claiming to be a church or convention or association of churches may not qualify for exemption.”


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: leahremini; lynnepatton; religion; revoke; scientology; soundsgood; taxexempt; trump
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I can make an argument that Islam is an ideology more then a religion and a direct violation of our constitution.

I also believe it can hold up in court.

Scientology I can't use the same argument.

Judge Learned Hand, the best Supreme Court justice who never was, said, (paraphrasing, the exact quote doesn't come to mind) 'neither this court, nor any other may sit in judgement of religion.'

BTW, The Romans decided that Christianity was a cult, not a religion. Does that make it right or wrong for an agent of the state to sit in judgement of religion?

81 posted on 11/10/2017 5:58:27 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: sparklite2
I’m not for anybody who wants to declare themselves a religion to get out of paying tax. You have to draw a line. And that line excludes Scientology from being a religion.

Who decides what is an acceptable religion?

Better IMHO, that taxes be low, fair and fall equally on all, rich and poor, free and bond...

82 posted on 11/10/2017 6:02:41 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Investigate Scientology for Organized Crime, or RICO, or kidnapping, or the other laws they break.

Fully agree, investigate and prosecute as you would any organization.

83 posted on 11/10/2017 6:05:17 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Krosan
I believe Church of Scientology is classified as a criminal organization engaged in fraud in Germany. That is why they didn’t allow Tom Cruise to film anything in official German government buildings for the Valyrie movie.

I believe you are correct.

84 posted on 11/10/2017 6:06:48 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: SpaceBar
The ACLU is orders of magnitude more dangerous than Scientology and should have had its tax status yanked Jan 21. If Trump wants to keep his eye on the ball, it should be the correct ball.

Why should any organization be tax exempt?

85 posted on 11/10/2017 6:07:52 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: moonhawk

I like the way you think.


86 posted on 11/10/2017 6:08:45 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Nifster
I agree with you. Put your flame suit on though because not everyone does

I've got my asbestos underwear...

87 posted on 11/10/2017 6:10:06 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Nifster
I don't recognize most of them, either. Got the pic here. Should've been more careful in the way I phrased my comment; not all are actors nor still involved with scientology, according to the source. Sorry, my fault.
88 posted on 11/10/2017 6:11:07 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: EdnaMode

They only got it under Bill Clinton.

Not a religion.


89 posted on 11/10/2017 6:11:52 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Oil: natural, organic, and gluten free)
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To: sparklite2
I don't think that's her, although I don't really know who the heck she is. I got that pic here and she's not listed.
90 posted on 11/10/2017 6:15:17 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: dsc
How is his invention a legitimate religion?

The courts and the IRS say it is, are you a patriotic American who supports our laws or not?

Hint, what LEGAL authority does any agent of the government have to decide on matters of religion belief?

Second hint, "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."

The question is how do we set it right?

91 posted on 11/10/2017 6:16:16 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Nifster
The Tech? You mean the phony auditing that is supposed to make you go clear? How about just doing some cognitive behaviour therapy?

Whatever works. It's not my place to tell you what does or doesn't work for you, nor yours for me.

92 posted on 11/10/2017 6:18:47 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Null and void ~ "I question why any church or religious organization should get special treatment from the IRS or tax code."

UnwashedPeasant ~ First Amendment.

This first amendment?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Isn't it an violation to play favorites as to what is a religion, establishing what religions are legit and which aren't???

The establishment clause is violated every time any religious organization gets preferential treatment.

93 posted on 11/10/2017 6:27:18 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I'm saying I don't know how to prove in court that it is an illegitimate religion.

Me neither, nor should we.

We know a tree by its fruits. Treat religions as you would any other organization. If they commit crimes, the crimes should be punished as one would punish an Enron or a tobacco company, for their crimes and actions, not their beliefs, or lack thereof.

94 posted on 11/10/2017 6:31:15 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: dsc
Testimony of witnesses wouldn’t do it?

Well, it did work for witches...

95 posted on 11/10/2017 6:32:12 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: cynwoody

LOL!!!! Best post of the week!


96 posted on 11/10/2017 6:33:27 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: TheNext
Yet what does The State tax?

Income? are they destroying income (don't answer, rhetorical question!)

Commerce? (sales tax)

Productivity? (VAT taxes adding value at every level in the supply chain)

The power to tax IS the power to destroy, better that it fall equally on everyone, that no one, no person or organization can be targeted if all bear the burden equally.

97 posted on 11/10/2017 6:40:24 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: LibWhacker

It’s ok. Scientology is a scourge created by an alcoholic pervert


98 posted on 11/10/2017 6:46:47 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: null and void

“The Tech” doesn’t exist...it has been proven to be a scam. If what you suggest is that the placebo effect is real I agree


99 posted on 11/10/2017 6:48:07 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

At least mohammad wasn’t an alcoholic...


100 posted on 11/10/2017 6:55:11 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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