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1 posted on 11/03/2017 3:28:22 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Who attended the Midwest Motorcycle Gang Investigators Association meeting in Waco a few weeks later?

Were they scheduled to present the Shootout at the TP Corral event a a model action?


2 posted on 11/03/2017 3:34:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Do the Bandidos wear "1%er" patches? Because my understanding is that it's like wearing a sign saying "I'm an outlaw."

Some motorcycle magazine in the distant past declared "only 1% of motorcycle riders are criminal" causing outlaw bikers to proudly wear that patch. I always wondered if someone could use that in court.
3 posted on 11/03/2017 3:36:14 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Elderberry

Police officers testifying as “expert witnesses”? No conflict of interest there, no sirree.


4 posted on 11/03/2017 3:43:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Elderberry

Sounds like not going as planned


5 posted on 11/03/2017 4:03:56 PM PDT by easternsky
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“against Jacob “Jake” Carrizal”

Jake is a nickname for guys named Jacob ?

This guy isn’t going to get away with this !


8 posted on 11/03/2017 4:16:43 PM PDT by Celerity
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“Expert witnesses” = the biggest liars in the court industry.


10 posted on 11/03/2017 4:23:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Elderberry

Arrest him on the way in the door.

If he knows that much, he is a Criminal Biker Gang Member.


12 posted on 11/03/2017 5:07:40 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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“At least a dozen local and state police officers, including a SWAT team, were positioned outside the restaurant, conducting surveillance on the meeting. The police contributed to the gun battle, but they have refused to say how many of the nine deaths and eighteen injuries were caused by police shootings. No officers were injured.”

Months and months ago, tests on recovered projectiles were supposedly underway to determine which firearms hit whom.
At this point, for “the police” to refuse to state how many were shot by police, would be an outrageous situation that a good Defense attorney should eat alive, by 1) calling for summary dismissal or mistrial for discovery violation; and after that was denied; 2) making it very clear to the jury that the State is in possession of that evidence but refused to share the results with the jury. Wonder why? The reasonable doubt conclusion is that the State is hiding the fact that most of the fatalities were the result of a police turkey shoot. It is incumbent on the Prosecution to prove its case. Proving the Bandidos actually shot multiple persons is the alpha and omega of this case (I assume the State is playing up this “criminal gang” angle for want of evidence of actual crimes). Perhaps the Defense should ask about the relationship of the Waco PD with the Cossacks, and whether the PD was at Twin Peaks to act as security for their Cossack partners; the cops certainly brought their tools.


13 posted on 11/03/2017 5:23:47 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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