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A larger problem for that theory is Morris Childs. Operation Solo.

Our most valuable spy in the entire Cold War.

Personal friend of the Soviet leadership.

In the Kremlin with his Soviet pals when the news of the assassination hit. They were as shocked as we were, and they were as occupied in trying to guess who had done it as we were. One of the few things that we knew for certain in the days right after the killing was that the Soviets were not involved.


165 posted on 10/22/2017 7:47:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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“A larger problem for that theory is Morris Childs. Operation Solo.

Our most valuable spy in the entire Cold War.

Personal friend of the Soviet leadership.

In the Kremlin with his Soviet pals when the news of the assassination hit. They were as shocked as we were, and they were as occupied in trying to guess who had done it as we were. One of the few things that we knew for certain in the days right after the killing was that the Soviets were not involved.”

Actually, Ion Mihai Pacepa covered both Morris and his brother Jack in his Disinformation book, and what he says paints a completely different picture (and in fact, he claims citing the Mitrokhin Archive, the KGB component responsible for operations in the US became suspicious of Morris, and by extension, Jack’s loyalties due to certain... holes in their backgrounds. Pacepa himself even suspects the KGB and Communist Party top levels may have already known or at least suspected their true roles since at least 1963, if not even earlier, and only let them in because they saw the disinformation potential.). It’s on page 250-4. I’ll post the full text later if anyone’s curious.

“If you look at Soviet operatives at that time, the idea that they’d use Oswall is absolutely laughable.

Look at Pacepa’s deposits from the DNC.”

If you’re implying that the DNC is trying to have Pacepa claim that the Russians were involved in the 2016 election, I’m here to tell you that that is definitely not true. As a matter of fact, he if anything suggested AGAINST Hillary winning the 2016 election and implied that she’s comparable to Nicolae Ceausceau.

*http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/hillarys-phone-gate-an-existential-threat/

“Here’s Escalante’s story from 2005:

Fabian Escalante was a supporter of Fidel Castro he worked for the country’s state security department. Later he became head of Cuba’s Counter-Intelligence Unit (1976-1982). In 1978 he agreed to provide information to the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

In 1978 President Carter arranged for a group of imprisoned exiles to be released. This included Tony Cuesta who was involved in an attack on Cuba on 29th May, 1966. A member of his team, Herminio Diaz Garcia, was killed during the raid. Cuesta, who always vowed that Castro would never take him alive, attempted suicide by setting off a grenade, which blinded him and blew off his right hand. Cuesta spent a long time in hospital as a result of his serious injuries.

Just before leaving Cuba Cuesta asked to see Escalante. Cuesta told Escalante that he had been involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

He also named Herminio Diaz Garcia and Eladio del Valle as being involved in the conspiracy. Cuesta asked Escalante not to make this information “public because I am returning to my family in Miami - and this could be very dangerous.”

In 1982 Escalante became a senior official in the Interior Ministry; he was considered to be Cuba’s leading authority on the history of CIA activities against Cuba. In a Cuban television documentary broadcast on November 26, 1993, Escalante named the gunmen who killed John F. Kennedy as three Chicago mobsters (Lenny Patrick, David Yaras, and Richard Cain), and two Cuban exiles (Eladio del Valle and Herminio Diaz Garcia), but said that many in the CIA and elsewhere knew what was going to happen.

In 1995, Wayne Smith, chief of the Centre for International Policy in Washington, arranged a meeting on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, in Nassau, Bahamas. Others in attendance were: Gaeton Fonzi, Dick Russell, Noel Twyman, Anthony Summers, Peter Dale Scott, Jeremy Gunn, John Judge, Andy Kolis, Peter Kornbluh, Mary and Ray LaFontaine, Jim Lesar, John Newman, Alan Rogers, Russ Swickard, Ed Sherry, and Gordon Winslow.

Some high-level Cuban officials attended the conference. This included Fabian Escalante, Carlos Lechuga, a former Cuban diplomat, and Arturo Rodriguez, a State Security official. Escalante revealed details of Cuesta’s confession. He also informed the group they had a spy in the anti-Castro community in Miami and knew about the plot to kill JFK.

Fabian Escalante is the author of The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations Against Cuba, 1959-62 (1995) and CIA Targets Fidel: The Secret Assassination Report (1996).

My Note: While Escalante claimed to have a written statement from the confessor, Cuesta, he refused to produce a letter to substantiate this claim.”

Yeah, about that, I have my suspicions of his story. Ignoring that he refused to back his claim, either Escalante is BSing us or Cuesta is BSing us, considering that a guy who is left blind from a grenade suicide bit would be incapable of firing a sniper rifle (which actually NEEDS eyes to be able to aim).

“That paragraph was about the coverup/muddying/obfuscation, not the actual op.”

Okay, my mistake.

“Also remember it is NOT LBJ. It is the entire US intel and services. Not to mention his party allies like the DNC.

Look at how many people are out of the loop in US stuff.

The DNC found 17 people in different agencies who would stay they thought the Russians colluded with Trump and we all know what a steaming pile of BS that is!

Besides, if tensions escalated with Russia, how valuable would these former Soviets be to the US government?”

Do I think the DNC is a terrible party and needs extensive reforms if not kicked out altogether? Yes. However, you’re ignoring Ion Mihai Pacepa (and for the record, considering he spoke out against Hillary Clinton and even compared him to the same guy he indirectly deposed earlier with his Red Horizons book, and he also made clear he wasn’t fond of Bernie Sanders, do you REALLY think that the DNC would give him donations?), and he makes it VERY clear that the Soviets were doing a massive disinformation campaign with the JFK assassination, and in fact, he was personally involved in that campaign. And for the record, it’s called “intelligence organizations” for a reason, the entire POINT is getting intel and making sure your enemies don’t listen in.

“If you are really interested in this I’d suggest you check out:

JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6830318/

These former US spooks talk to his Soviet handlers anonymously and they completely confirm that Oswell wasn’t even OKed to collect intel, track boats or do ANYTHING with the Soviet Union and didn’t get CLOSE to making the grade.

He tried to be an agent for the Soviet Union, and they wouldn’t touch him with a 10-foot pole.”

Yet again, I suggest you read Ion Mihai Pacepa’s book “Disinformation” as well as “Programmed to Kill”. The USSR thrives on disinformation. Do you REALLY think that they’d stop the charade?


181 posted on 10/23/2017 5:43:35 AM PDT by otness_e
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