Got into a huge fight with the wife last night over this stuff.
Her position is that it happened to her a couple of times when she was younger (High school and college) where a guy stuck his hand up under her dress and grabbed her rear end.
I agreed that kind of behavior is boorish and the guy should have been slapped in the least and kicked out of college at worst. (This happened in a college advisor area—but it was a student along with my wife who was a student at the time.)
The argument stemmed with my conviction that if she did not say anything, then she allowed this man the “permission” to do it again—because there was no consequence.
I also pointed out to her that she should have shared this experience with our two adult daughters while they were going through high school and college. It was her opportunity to “empower” them that unacceptable behavior is unacceptable no matter who does it, or where its done.
I stated my opinion that all of the “celebrities” doing the #meToo bullshit are not doing anyone any good without naming names. The people who do this stuff should be ostracized. and humiliated in the court of public opinion—of not a court of law.
My position was I am horrified that she had to endure that, but I was also horrified that she did nothing to stop it. For all of these women, the message has to be that no one gets away with it. And that lesson is more important than their career—because there are plenty of people who WILL hire you or WILL date you without giving up your self respect.
I was told to climb back on my male perch.
I agree with you. If a woman does not send a strong message back that the behavior is unwanted, unfortunately some men will interpret it as the woman simply being coy. As in, “she really wants it”.
Our daughters and sons need to hear these about these experiences so that they are warned about the world we live in. Not every man or woman out there is a creep or a jerk or a predator, but there is no shortage of such people. Knowing that at an age appropriate time is the beginning of arming and empowering our kids to deal with such people.
I kind of agree with that, but what about if someone says you did something and you didnt? I mean to get back at you for something you did or didnt do? that also can happen...
They went through in detail during the show about people blaming the victims - and I was curious if any Freepers would be LOW LIFE enough to do the same (because I was sure there would be). So I did a search - and there you are.
If you will watch "Athlete A" - you will see that DOZENS of these girls DID report - and were shamed by their coaches - threatened by the cops (at Michigan State) - made to sign NDAs (you know - like Trump does a lot) - etc.
Many of them tried to report.
But that doesn't matter. They were young teens. THe fact you would state this: "The people who do this stuff should be ostracized. and humiliated in the court of public opinion—of not a court of law" - about YOUNG TEEN GIRLS - who are not adults -
Makes you just a scum bag - a low life.
ANd you know what - if it ever happens to your granddaughter - and she reports it to the authorities like MANY of these did - I hope she isn't treated or IGNORED and SILENCED like EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WERE.
You are a POS human being.