[DesertRhino]

“Pretty sure Frankie told a lot of people to go F**k themselves.”

Always laugh at the people who think he actually was a scary dude.
John Wayne lived in SoCal and was very much a Hollywood type. He wasn’t actually a cowboy.

And Sinatra wasn’t a tough guy of any sort, or a mobster.

And the guy who plays Sheldon Cooper doesn’t understand physics and cant do math.

[rbg81]

Always laugh at the people who think he actually was a scary dude.

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I don’t know if Sinatra got his hands dirty, but he probably had tough guys on a short leash who would do his bidding. He also had mob connections. And from what I’ve read, he did tell a lot of people to F**k off. I don’t think a lot of them talked back to him.

But, hey, maybe you have some personal knowledge??

[atc23]

Wayne never played a "cowboy" on screen, did he? He played a rancher, cattleman, law enforcement officer, outlaw - but I don't think he ever played a cowpuncher.

As for being a Hollywood type - he was certainly NOT that. He was a family man, boater and big game fisherman. He gave away most of his money which is why he was still working close to death. I grew up in Newport Beach a few miles from them and knew Pat and Mike somewhat. We used to run into the big man at the Rexall and Albertsons.

[TalBlack]

Frankly (no pun intended) I don’t think you can be from his era of Hoboken and not have told an awful lot of people to go eff themselves. They would have thrown that word around like others use “excuse me”.

[dfwgator]

When Frankie started out, he was a skinny pip squeak that the girls screamed at like they did The Beatles, but any guy that liked Frank, was probably going to be thought of as a Finocchio.

Then he went Hollywood and changed his image.