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In other words, nothing derived by science is true. Only the Bible can inform us?


35 posted on 10/05/2017 12:53:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

***In other words, nothing derived by science is true. Only the Bible can inform us?***

Hi JimSEA.

I don’t know how you could have read my post and come to that conclusion about what I think.

My point is that science hasn’t proven what you think it has proven.

To meet the criteria of the scientific method something has to be observable, testable, repeatable and falsifiable.

The theory of evolution can’t meet that requirement.... and neither can creation.

Examination of both propositions is forensic in nature. The question is “what is the most reasonable”?

Natural law demands an outside force to start it all. Consider this:

One of these four things is true, they are the only options:

1. Matter/energy do not exist.
2. Matter/energy are eternal.
3. Matter/energy spontaneously generated from nothing.
4. Matter/energy were created.

Option #1 is falsified by the scientific method, we observe matter and energy every day.

Option #2 is falsified by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Everything in the universe is subject to entropy and we are headed irrevocably toward heat death. If the universe were eternal this would have already happened. It is really a moot point anyway.... science is all-in on the Big Bang, which says that the universe had a beginning and is therefore not eternal.

Option #3 is falsified by the 1st Law of Thermodynamics which says that energy is constant. By natural processes it can neither be created nor destroyed. If natural processes can’t create energy, it had to have been created by something outside of nature… by definition, then, Supernaturally.

It is also falsified by the Law of the Conservation of Matter which says the same thing about matter that the 1st Law of Thermo says about energy.

It is also falsified by the Law of Causality. Every effect must have a pre-existent cause and the effect cannot be greater than the cause. It is not possible to have an infinite regress of causes. The initial cause would have to have come from outside of nature, again, Supernaturally.

Option #4 cannot at this point be falsified….. and it is the only option that is left. I said this to you in an earlier post and I’ll stand on it: The question is not “Is there a Creator”, the questions is “Who is the Creator”.

Those who say that life was planted here by “an alien civilization” (the directed panspermia argument) haven’t solved anything….. they’ve just moved it elsewhere in the universe and they still have the same problems outlined in options 1, 2 & 3 above. The Creator can’t be part of nature, He has to exist outside of nature.

I’ve been interested in this subject for a lot of years now. The more I look at the world around me and the incredible complexity required for life, the more I am in awe of the Creator.

Scripture says in John 1, Colossians 1 and Hebrews 1 that God created everything through his son Jesus Christ.

Jesus then submitted to the will of the Father and was inserted into history to redeem that which He Himself had created in His own image.

When He was here, He validated scripture’s creation account (Mt. 19:4-5), He also validated the global flood (Luke 17:26-27).

Those who profess Christianity and believe that the Creation/Flood accounts are allegorical are essentially disavowing the one they profess to follow.

Blessings to you, JimSEA


37 posted on 10/06/2017 10:44:54 AM PDT by schaef21
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