Posted on 09/17/2017 2:56:01 AM PDT by Bullish
Most of the time, hackers use something like this AI tool to guess a list of passwords on some insecure site with a lot of users like instagram, linkedin, wordpress etc... then they will take that list along with your profile to try them on bank sites etc trying two logins and then waiting 20 minutes, change ips etc... that script runs for days until they get into a couple of the interesting sites.
Only the people that use the same password on the insecure sites and the secure sites will be vulnerable.
George: I am not giving you my code.
Kramer: I’ll bet I can guess it.
George: Pssh. Yeah. Right.
Kramer: Oh, alright. Yeah. Uh, let’s see. Um, well, we can throw out birthdays immediately. That’s too obvious. And no numbers for you, you’re a word man. Alright, let’s go deeper. Uh, what kind of man are you? Well, you’re weak, spineless, a man of temptations, but what tempts you?
George: Huh?
Kramer: You’re a portly fellow, a bit long in the waistband. So what’s your pleasure? Is it the salty snacks you crave? No no no no no, yours is a sweet tooth.
George: Get out of here.
Kramer: Oh you may stray, but you’ll always return to your dark master, the cocoa bean.
George: I’m leaving.
Kramer: No, and only the purest syrup nectar can satisfy you!
George: I gotta go.
Kramer: If you could you’d guzzle it by the gallon! Ovaltine! Hershey’s!
George: Shut up!
Kramer: Nestle’s Quik!
George: Shut up!
I’ve yanked Google as a default on anything due to that sort of thing and their corporate actions in other areas. I’ll use them from time to time, but it’s minimal.
That’s why Kramer was clever enough to get the statue back.
But then, there was the whole Michigan bottle deposit thing.
That’s a perfect demonstration of why IT needs to develop a better system than user name and password and works for human beings.
Unfortunately most IT/Security types don’t understand simple statistics. They make you use passwords that include two of these, two of those, and two more of those. Each time they include those types of restrictions, they lower the total number of possible passwords. They haven’t made passwords more secure, they have made them less.
Always wondered if nonprinting ascii would work. Never tried it
That would certainly slow a AI powered hack of your password down but time means nothing to a computer, so it would just try and try and try... a lockout would negate that patience. Consequently, what benefit to all the AI’s computing power if it was stopped after three failed attempts? What advantage if it stopped at two failed attempts and then waited 15 minutes or whatever until the password security system reset the session then tried two more? Eight attempts an hour is not going to clear the astronomical number of letter, number, symbol combinations to be tried.
Thanks. That is a strategy that uses AI to winnow down to huge number of combinations to be tried to a list that, while still quite large, is still at least manageable. Based on the desire not to trigger the account lockout feature, the hacker’s computer would have an unlimited number of two try attempts. Would an effective defense be to monitor the number of failed log on attempts per account per day without lockout and flag unusually high numbers of persistent probing for further investigation?
Someone will invent a helmet you can put on when you have to write a term paper but don't want to be bothered with typing. Then evil actors will use it for interrogations...
Fascinating; although it cut off too soon. So I listened to about half of another interview Barret did with an Australian AI geek, both of them struggling to grasp that preventing negative applications is impossible. They are still holding out hope. Alas, in vain.
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