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To: SurfConservative

Also elaborating on the point he makes in the article that war wasn’t inevitable, he’s wrong.

The South had maintained a long practice of filibustering- sending militias into areas in Latin America that rampaged around. This is the reason why Lincoln said that he opposed extending the Missouri compromise line all the way to the Pacific. The slaveholders of the South would have just started doing informal military campaigns using these mercs to spread slavery all the way down to Tierra del Fuego.

Not only that, but the South would have definitely used these against the Union. A war would have been inevitable. There were pro slavery sentiments in Southern California both in the state itself and in the Confederacy. Border disputes would have been common and another Bleeding Kansas could quickly happen if Confederates swarmed an area or used a filibustering campaign. The Confederate Army also would have started pillaging islands in the Caribbean, which would’ve caught the attention of the British. Many Confederate intellectuals were also sympathetic to the idea of reopening the slave trade, which would have definitely kicked off a war.


6 posted on 08/25/2017 10:42:21 AM PDT by BostonNeocon
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To: BostonNeocon

War is never inevitable. It requires a decision, and a military order. . . which do not have to be made or givien.


8 posted on 08/25/2017 10:45:08 AM PDT by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: BostonNeocon

you correct war was inevitable after Dred Scott

if someone had won the presidency in 1860 that was going to enforce with Federal forces inside the free states then the free stated would have been in Rebellion

if the North and South head split peaceably you would have two countries vying for the same territory in the west and a continuation of the same forces of free states and slave states slaves escaping the North war between those two countries what is still been inevitable

the political Solution on slavery was the only option to keep the peace and many innthe South knew that was a dying institution also

slavery was ended many places all over the world peaceably

Dred Scott inflamed the situation polarizing the most extreme pro-slavery and anti-slavery forces on each side and basically froze the moderates in the middle that we’re trying to come up with a political solution ...

Dred Scott caused the War


14 posted on 08/25/2017 11:02:54 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: BostonNeocon
The slaveholders of the South would have just started doing informal military campaigns using these mercs to spread slavery all the way down to Tierra del Fuego.

You good sir are an absolute idiot. In certain nations in South America slavery was still accepted. In other nations it was banned. However, in those nations the freed slaves were second class citizens then and they are today.

However, if you want to look at genocidal slavery one must look to Argentina. What the Spaniards did not enslave they killed. Today Argentina is very very white. It is mostly Spanish, German and Italian blood today.

42 posted on 08/25/2017 2:45:20 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: BostonNeocon
“to spread slavery all the way down to Tierra del Fuego”

Slavery already had existed south of the border for centuries.

Between 1525 and 1866 10.7 million Africans were shipped to the West. Of these only about 388,000 came directly to North America, with 450,000 ended up in what would become the US. The remaining 10 million ended up in South America and the Caribbean.

The US banned the importation of slaves and slave trading in 1808. So slaves were legally imported into the US from 1787 to 1808. A total of 21 years.

Slavery existed in the United States from 1787 when we became an independent country to 1865, yet the world acts like we started the slave trade.

Cuba emancipated its slaves in 1886. Brazil was the last country in the Americas to emancipate all its slaves in 1888.

And yet slavery still exists in many parts of the world.

58 posted on 08/25/2017 4:34:03 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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