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To: 1FreeAmerican
#15: "1 large turbine will save 154.8 million trees in 5 years."

Remember GIGO: garbage in, garbage out. Something does not seem right with those numbers. In any case, CO2 is a harmless non-toxic gas. It is natural and not a pollutant.

One thing rarely considered is the amount of copper that goes into a wind turbine. Probably over a thousand miles of copper wire, who knows how many pounds of copper. A half ton? One ton?

Copper mining is not a "clean" environmentally friendly endeavor. Nor is the smelting of ore and manufacture of wire. There are many deadly toxic byproducts of copper mining. Copper is essential to modern society but why mine it needlessly to appease the Global Warming Gods?

There is no global warming, just variable weather patterns and sun spot activity.
 

21 posted on 08/08/2017 8:30:23 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

CO2 is not a harmless, non toxic gas. It can kill you. Best way to find out, like I did....

put dry ice in a freezer chest that opens from the top. Put your head in and take a breath. It’s like getting hit in the face with a brick. You immediately know you are not breathing oxygen.


22 posted on 08/08/2017 8:46:07 PM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit: Educated Men Make Terrible Slaves - Aristotle)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Numbers are extrapolated from the Enphase Enlighten web monitoring site for a 10kW system. They say that 65.5 tons of CO2 have been saved and 1 ton of CO2 equals about 24 trees. Multiply that by 100,000 for a 1 megawatt wind turbine. Does seem high to me also.
I have read that the energy needed to manufacture and install a large turbine is equal to the output of that turbine for 10 years - at which time it will need a major overhaul or replacement.


32 posted on 08/09/2017 7:21:28 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Oops that is multiply times 100 so we have 155,000 trees.

Consider also there are thousands of 10kW PV systems all over the US.


33 posted on 08/09/2017 8:08:36 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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