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Made in America* -- How the U.S. auto industry was built with foreign labor
CBSNews ^ | July 31, 2017 | Emily Rand

Posted on 08/05/2017 8:27:32 PM PDT by buckalfa

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To: equaviator
“And don’t tell me “That’s not who we are”.

I'm so tired of hearing that self-rightious phrase.

21 posted on 08/06/2017 4:49:37 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: dljordan

““That’s not who we are”.

I’m so tired of hearing that self-rightious phrase.”

Especially since it attempts to speak for everyone. It’s an abuse of the power of suggestion.


22 posted on 08/06/2017 5:35:58 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: central_va

“We have enough Americans to build all the factories we need...”

But “WE” weren’t building this building. It was a company that made decisions based on the current situation and most efficient cost/benefit ratio available at the time. What “we” have done is permitted ourselves, over time, to accept a situation where labor costs were so out of line with what was the actual value of the work that it was more efficient to bring in people across an ocean to do it.

This is what Trump is working hard to change and one of our biggest challenges; breaking down the controls, limitations and restrictions that make it too expensive to do business here in the US. Apple keeping a billion dollars in cash outside the US and Burger King merging with a Canadian Company are different aspects of the same big problem.


23 posted on 08/06/2017 6:45:29 AM PDT by jdsteel (States rights don't include ignoring federal law.Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: enduserindy; central_va; be-baw
"skill and experience"

It is only logical since base coat-clear coat paint technology originated in Europe.

It is the same in paint and body shops: The imported European auto spray booths sell very well in the US

The HVLP paint spray equipment used thru-out the US was developed in Europe

24 posted on 08/06/2017 7:08:18 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: jdsteel
But “WE” weren’t building this building. It was a company that made decisions based on the current situation and most efficient cost/benefit ratio available at the time.

True but we the people can elect a government the places import tariffs and restrictions on importing labor into the USA. Hence Trump.

27 posted on 08/06/2017 7:47:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Ok so Trump cant see the light and go against his prior use of that labor? What kind of small minded thinking is that? Can an ex-smoker be against smoking?


28 posted on 08/06/2017 7:49:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: be-baw
I’ve never seen a building contract that specified that all employees will be American citizens.

If the government did it's job and restricted immigration there wouldn't have to be a contact like that. It would happen naturally.

29 posted on 08/06/2017 7:50:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
We've discussed two possible scenarios. 1) Making American labor more globally competitive by removing market unfriendly rules, regulations and Union related forces. 2) Adding tariffs and restrictions to make foreign labor more expensive or difficult.

Ask yourself which of these two is the Conservative supply side approach and which is the liberal demand side approach.

Regarding Trump, he's always made it clear that tariffs and restrictions are a response to countries who do NOT let the free market work or take advantage of unfair trade practices.

30 posted on 08/07/2017 5:52:05 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: jdsteel
Making American labor more globally competitive by removing market unfriendly rules, regulations and Union related forces. 2) Adding tariffs and restrictions to make foreign labor more expensive or difficult.

We need to do both. They are not mutually exclusive.

So would you consider the below a conservative? Do you know where this came from?

We reaffirm our belief in the protective tariff to extend needed protection to our productive industries. We believe in protection as a national policy, with due and equal regard to all sections and to all classes. It is only by adherence to such a policy that the well being of the consumers can be safeguarded that there can be assured to American agriculture, to American labor and to American manufacturers a return to perpetrate American standards of life. A protective tariff is designed to support the high American economic level of life for the average family and to prevent a lowering to the levels of economic life prevailing in other lands.

In the history of the nation the protective tariff system has ever justified itself by restoring confidence, promoting industrial activity and employment, enormously increasing our purchasing power and bringing increased prosperity to all our people.

31 posted on 08/07/2017 6:01:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The last part of my previous post, again: “Regarding Trump, he’s always made it clear that tariffs and restrictions are a response to countries who do NOT let the free market work or take advantage of unfair trade practices.”

No,Trump is NOT a conservative. He’s all over the map. But on this point his protectionism is in response to bad actors and not a return to the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act.


32 posted on 08/08/2017 6:05:16 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

Oh, you are one of the idiots that thinks Smoot Hawley caused or worsened the Great Depression? That myth was dispelled long ago. It’s a globalist propaganda ruse. Go back and read contemporary history of the Great Depression, trade will not even be discussed.


33 posted on 08/08/2017 7:02:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Oh, you’re one of those idiots that think central planning can accurately control an economy? You may be on the wrong website. Try the Democrat Underground for more like minded people. And BTW, when you start calling names you become uninteresting to me.


34 posted on 08/09/2017 5:49:55 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: jdsteel
Oh, you’re one of those idiots that think central planning can accurately control an economy?

If you are calling me an idiot then you are calling Washington, Madison and Jefferson idiots.

35 posted on 08/09/2017 3:51:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I returned your insult, and if you think any of our founding fathers wrote Smoot Hawley or were proponents of a powerful central government well......


36 posted on 08/09/2017 8:43:40 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: jdsteel
Smoot Hawley would have been passed by the first congress and supported by the founding fathers enthusiastically. In fact, tariffs funded the Federal Govt for the first 100+ years of the USA's existence.

So your post shows a woeful ignorance of history.

37 posted on 08/10/2017 4:24:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Not at all. Tariffs WERE used in lieu of income tax in the early days. Now we have income tax. So far you’ve backed a strong federal government, double taxation and central planning (if you admit it or not). You DO know this is a conservative site, don’t you?


38 posted on 08/10/2017 5:24:19 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: dljordan
“And don’t tell me “That’s not who we are”. I'm so tired of hearing that self-rightious phrase.

When I hear that phrase, it makes me want to grab a flame-thrower.

39 posted on 08/10/2017 5:33:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jdsteel
lieu of income tax in the early days

R U kidding me? You are ignorant of history. You'd have been hanged for even mentioning an income tax to the founders. A tax on human effort and the "fruits of your own labor" would be an anathema to them and it SHOULD be an anathema to you.

40 posted on 08/10/2017 5:43:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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