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The Racial and Religious Paranoia of Trump's Poland Speech
The Atlantic ^ | July 6, 2017 | Peter Beinart

Posted on 07/07/2017 7:18:56 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt

In his speech in Poland on Thursday, Donald Trump referred 10 times to “the West” and five times to “our civilization.” His white nationalist supporters will understand exactly what he means. It’s important that other Americans do, too.

The West is not a geographic term. Poland is further east than Morocco. France is further east than Haiti. Australia is further east than Egypt. Yet Poland, France, and Australia are all considered part of “The West.” Morocco, Haiti, and Egypt are not.

The West is not an ideological or economic term either. India is the world’s largest democracy. Japan is among its most economically advanced nations. No one considers them part of the West.

The West is a racial and religious term. To be considered Western, a country must be largely Christian (preferably Protestant or Catholic) and largely white. Where there is ambiguity about a country’s “Westernness,” it’s because there is ambiguity about, or tension between, these two characteristics. Is Latin America Western? Maybe. Most of its people are Christian, but by U.S. standards, they’re not clearly white. Are Albania and Bosnia Western? Maybe. By American standards, their people are white. But they are also mostly Muslim.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: europe; fakenews; globalism; westerncivilization
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Professor Obvious believes he's unwrapped the dark hidden meaning of that which Trump made perfectly clear. The only paranoia here is Breinart's.
1 posted on 07/07/2017 7:18:57 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

I’ll should give you $10 bucks to find something better to post.


2 posted on 07/07/2017 7:21:13 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Just B.S. snark.


3 posted on 07/07/2017 7:23:38 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Fakebook had this headline as the top trending news yesterday online the way it was on their website it couldn’t be reported as fakenews


4 posted on 07/07/2017 7:24:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

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5 posted on 07/07/2017 7:26:52 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Poland used to be considered NOT part of the West. When they didn’t have freedoms like press, religion etc.

I guess it’s not all racial and religious.

Maybe they call it Western Civilization because there is, you know, civilization involved?


6 posted on 07/07/2017 7:28:10 AM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

This guy probably lives in New York and roots for the Bosox.

There is nothing wrong with wanting your civilization to survive.

Our Betters demonstrate their superior intellectual and moral gifts by failing to see any distinction between freedom and tyranny, whether that tyranny be economic, political or religious.

You have to be massively intelligent to fail to grasp this obvious distinction.


7 posted on 07/07/2017 7:29:16 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

The “West” is in a cultural, not a past geographic context


8 posted on 07/07/2017 7:30:27 AM PDT by Insigne123
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To: aspasia; Ouchthatonehurt

Ditto.


9 posted on 07/07/2017 7:30:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Sorry, professor, but Trump did not invent the term “Western Civilization,” nor did he give it some quirky new meaning. He used the term exactly as it has been used in college courses in Western Civilization for more than a hundred years.


10 posted on 07/07/2017 7:31:31 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Ouchthatonehurt
And here I expected this guy to believe the earth is flat.
11 posted on 07/07/2017 7:31:35 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

If America is such a bigoted christian nation filled with white nationalists then why are so many non-whites from around the world, and many who are not christians, doing any and everything to get here?


12 posted on 07/07/2017 7:32:17 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

"Sons of Gondor! Of Rohan! My brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of Men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand! Men of the West!"

13 posted on 07/07/2017 7:33:33 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (I don't give a damn about your feelings. Try to impress me with your convictions.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Just another anti-West POS. You are the very people who seek to destroy the West.

Must be pathetic to be so confused. I dare say most people are not.


14 posted on 07/07/2017 7:34:31 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Beinhart apparently is one of those people who thinks America and American values only began when his parents got off the boat.


15 posted on 07/07/2017 7:34:45 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

“The West is a racial and religious term. To be considered Western, a country must be largely Christian (preferably Protestant or Catholic) and largely white.”

Yes, people and religion have a little something to do with culture. That this is even controversial is depressing.


16 posted on 07/07/2017 7:34:51 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

One good aspect of Trump’s speech is that the left are now openly declaring their opposition to preserving Western Civilization and Christianity, even the family. The cat is out of the bag.


17 posted on 07/07/2017 7:34:56 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: aspasia

We need to read stuff like this.
This is what we are and will be fighting.


18 posted on 07/07/2017 7:35:12 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

“The West” means civilized societies that embrace free markets


19 posted on 07/07/2017 7:35:47 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

What an ugly article filled with ugly assumptions.

Thank you for posting it.

We NEED to read this because this is what we are up against. We have cultural suicide bombers in our own midst.


20 posted on 07/07/2017 7:37:02 AM PDT by Lorianne
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