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To: Jim 0216

“I think it is reasonable to say that Jefferson’s purpose here was to establish the right to session based on natural law principles.”

Jefferson contention was: “. . . the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them . . .”

And “ . . . they are endowed by their Creator . . .”

Jefferson didn’t claim he was establishing some new right in the DOI, or even advocating something new. Rights, Jefferson argued - even the right of secession comes from God - not from the government or the DOI.


410 posted on 07/10/2017 9:06:37 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

Who said anything about a “new” right or the right of secession coming anywhere but from God? You’re reading stuff into what I’m saying that I’m not saying. I’ve repeatedly said “God-given” and NEVER said government-given or the right emerging from the D of I. Jefferson used the D of I to establish the God-given natural right of secession, among other things.


412 posted on 07/10/2017 9:27:16 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: jeffersondem
Rights, Jefferson argued - even the right of secession comes from God - not from the government or the DOI.

Jefferson never spoke of a "God-given" right of secession. He (and many other founders) recognized a God-given right of rebellion against tyranny. They also recognized that rebellion comes with consequences and risks.

God never said that all your wishes automatically come true.

425 posted on 07/11/2017 6:51:49 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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