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I went to FDRs home in Hyde Park, NY. The volunteer tour guide mentioned FDRs mom's family made their fortune from the opium trade. They were the El Chapos of the Victorian era.
1 posted on 06/28/2017 6:43:10 AM PDT by C19fan
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Just goes to show no matter the era, there are always complete morons about, no more or less than today’s variety I suppose...

I see all kinds of idiots passed out in cars or whatever from “ODing’... just stupid.


2 posted on 06/28/2017 6:47:21 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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“I went to FDRs home in Hyde Park, NY. The volunteer tour guide mentioned FDRs mom’s family made their fortune from the opium trade. They were the El Chapos of the Victorian era”.

The tour guide was speaking the truth. It’s amazing that he or she would mention that.

Then they made more money supplying opium to the US Army Medical Corp during the civil War.


3 posted on 06/28/2017 6:50:48 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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I’ve been to an opium den in Asia. You are supposed to lie on your left side to smoke it. Which is why many people are doing so. With that said, you know some of these people were strung out. But for some it could have been their first time. After all, it took a long time to set up photos back then. Maybe the cameraman wasn’t even high.


4 posted on 06/28/2017 6:52:33 AM PDT by Yaelle
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“First the Chinese smoked the drug, then the Anglo-American underworld, followed by men and women in the middle and upper classes, before finally reaching children in the community.”


5 posted on 06/28/2017 6:52:38 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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Tour guides are getting very honest and interesting these days. They aren’t little old ladies filling your head with useless pleasantries any more. Interesting.


6 posted on 06/28/2017 6:55:14 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Drugs were not illegal in the 1800’s, nor the early 1900’s.

Coca-Cola was laced with cocaine, and Thomas Edison was a devote of Coca-Cola.

If it was not illegal, why are we bitchin’ about the folks who earned a profit from it?

Do any of you own shares of alcohol stocks in your 401K’s or mutual funds?

I’m just saying lets be honest about ‘the war on drugs’ -it did not exist back then.

BTW - Ever READ any Sir Arthur Conan Doyal mysteries? Hint: The brainiac was an opium user...


8 posted on 06/28/2017 6:55:54 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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The opium rush was at its most prevalent during the 1880s and 1890s, which coincided with the rise of the temperance movement.

This also coincided, but not coincidentally, with the rise of the anti-abortion movement.

The situation with abortion wasn't that the average person thought it was OK to kill a baby, but that the general belief was that a baby wasn't a baby until it "quickened"; people thought that the baby became alive when s/he started kicking. With the rise of medical knowledge concerning fetal development, people began to realize that the baby was alive from the moment of conception; with the rise of sanitation protocols because of the advancing of germ theory, physicians took over obstetrics from midwives in order to keep mother and child alive more often, and the Hippocratic Oath, which doctors used to swear to, prohibited inducing abortion.

It should be, but is not general knowledge that the same women who promoted temperance around the turn of the 20th century also promoted the prohibition of abortions. It wasn't until feminism was taken over by the Marxists and the Nietzscheans that abortion became the sacrament of feminist heretopraxis.

12 posted on 06/28/2017 7:01:48 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Sex, drugs, and ragtime.

Only the music changes...


13 posted on 06/28/2017 7:02:52 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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I wonder when they will run a story of Britain’s opium dens? Or do they only want to put Americans in a bad light and expect people to believe that Brits didn’t have the same segment of society that used drugs?


20 posted on 06/28/2017 8:30:54 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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21 posted on 06/28/2017 8:37:49 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Smoking opium was rather pleasant but it could get really addictive.


22 posted on 06/28/2017 8:45:43 AM PDT by VietVet876
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