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Do you see a comparison between Otto Warmbeir and Michael Brown?
vanity ^ | June 25, 2017 | Linda Martinez

Posted on 06/25/2017 6:22:32 AM PDT by eccentric

Could you help me with a comparison between Otto Warmbeir and Michael Brown?

Otto went to North Korea with a group. Accused of a crime he was sentence to prison and killed. People hold back their sympathy saying, "He shouldn't have gone to North Korea." "It's his own fault for being stupid." etc.

Michael Brown lived life as thug. When he attacked a police officer, the officer shoots and kills him. Millions are outraged, the police officer is brought to trail, and though acquitted, he is threatened, and harassed. The family sues and the city pays them off.....


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: michaelbrown; northkorea; ottowarmbier
Am I reaching here? Does anyone else see the hypocrisy? Can you add to this example?
1 posted on 06/25/2017 6:22:33 AM PDT by eccentric
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To: eccentric

If liberals didn’t have double-standards they wouldn’t have any standards at all.


2 posted on 06/25/2017 6:33:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: eccentric
I think that Otto Warmbier might have been a misguided idealist. There is a subculture of true believers who genuinely believe leftist propaganda. If you are not aware of this propaganda, it basically states over and over how wonderful and compassionate the most totalitarian and brutal regimes are, while constantly pounding on the horrors of a capitalistic society. It is difficult to describe this propaganda and impart its full impact; I am very familiar with it because I used to listen to Radio Moscow in the days of the USSR, and because I have a relative who listens to Pacifica, which promulgates essentially the same kind of propaganda (the relative wants to convert everyone, so anyone visiting gets a dose of the propaganda).

Anyway, if Warmbier was a true believer, he most likely visited North Korea expecting to see a paradise, and was utterly unprepared for the reality of the regime.

3 posted on 06/25/2017 6:39:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: eccentric

Blacks get stirred up and riot. It takes a lot more to stir up whites. The thug is pandered to to quell the possibility of a riot. The riot won’t be put down due to the “visuals” of seeing blacks “mistreated”. The propaganda machine has worked well. Whites who defend society or themselves are greedy oppressive haters of minorities.


4 posted on 06/25/2017 6:55:01 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: eccentric

VERY simple...

Otto STOLE a poster.

Michael WAS a poster-boy.


5 posted on 06/25/2017 6:57:10 AM PDT by moovova
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To: eccentric

Bottom line is they were both stupid.


6 posted on 06/25/2017 7:01:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Both stupid in different ways. Michael Brown was malicious and dangerous, Otto Warmbeir was clueless and feckless. Warmbeir’s cluelessness inflicted harm on others as well as himself. Anyone who travels to North Korea loses the aegis of U.S. diplomacy, and the nation should not spend a lot of energy trying to extricate himself from the the consequences of his fecklessness.

Both Brown and Warmbeir were let down by the adults in their lives who should have instilled in them more sense of responsibility and common sense. By making martyrs of either of them we sending an altogether wrong message to young people. As Chris Rock explained so well, “You ever hear folks sayin’ I wouldn’t do that shit if I was you? Well, this here is some of that shit.”

Don’t attack police officers.
Don’t travel to countries controlled by insane dictators.


7 posted on 06/25/2017 7:35:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: eccentric

Leftists never live by the dictates the give to the rest of us. Its been true of Russian, Chinese, N Korean, Cuban elite and all the rest. Bernie Sanders comes to mind with Hollywood leftists. Just a fact of life.


8 posted on 06/25/2017 7:38:12 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

BTW, I would not be surprised if Warmbier’s condition was the result of a suicide attempt. The Norks didn’t count on that. Once his usefulness as a bargaining chip was removed, the Norks dropped him like a hot potato. Clearly they expected the next Democratic President to send them a planeload of Obama Euros to buy him back. A US hostage is worth a king’s ransom to them and far too valuable to kill.


9 posted on 06/25/2017 7:40:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: exDemMom
Anyway, if Warmbier was a true believer, he most likely visited North Korea expecting to see a paradise, . . .

And for that I blame the lying media and Higher Education.

10 posted on 06/25/2017 7:42:16 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: exDemMom

I tend to agree, but I think calling him a misguided idealist is giving a lot of credit that may or may not be due. The tour company he traveled with is the “Young Pioneers.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/19/tour-group-weighs-change-after-warmbier-death/103023202/

Other sources indicate that, as the name implies, this group is for dedicated young Communists. Pollyanna would say they are misguided idealists, even so. I say, the history of the 20th Century shows they are vicious killers who won’t hesitate to liquidate millions to achieve total power over society.

Warmbier may have been a misguided idealist. Or, he may have simply been a gangsta wannabe who died at the hands of another gang. I’m not sure there is a comparison with Michael Brown.


11 posted on 06/25/2017 7:50:39 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: moovova
EXCELLENT

Otto STOLE a poster.

Michael WAS a poster-boy

12 posted on 06/25/2017 7:52:40 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“I would not be surprised if Warmbier’s condition was the result of a suicide attempt.”

WOW.

You ought to write forr the NEW YORK TIMES.

Tell them I recommended you.


13 posted on 06/25/2017 7:55:37 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I think a suicide attempt is a reasonable, if cynical, speculation. What motive do the Norks have to kill him. When some horrible Democrat apparatchik succeeds Trump, he is literally worth a billion dollars to them alive. He is worthless to them dead.


14 posted on 06/25/2017 8:01:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Deep thoughts.

For sure.


15 posted on 06/25/2017 8:10:09 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“What motive do the Norks have to kill him.”

They didn’t want to kill him, but rather they wanted to abuse him and they wanted to see just how far they can abuse an American citizen (and it was a given Trump would find out about the abuse and they wanted to test him).

Things went too far and oops, $h!t happens. Probably testing new interrogation methods and technology as dictators are inclined to do (recall the torture and medical abuse by the chinese and norks during the Korean War).

Remember, to a society that is convinced Americans and others are sub-human, torture and other abuses are allowed and encouraged.

My guess. . .


16 posted on 06/25/2017 9:01:01 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: eccentric

White people don’t riot, burn buildings, and loot their neighborhoods when things don’t go their way.

Sorry to sound harsh.


17 posted on 06/25/2017 11:39:41 AM PDT by jch10 (Laughing my Ossoff at the Democrats!)
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To: Hulka
They didn’t want to kill him, but rather they wanted to abuse him and they wanted to see just how far they can abuse an American citizen (and it was a given Trump would find out about the abuse and they wanted to test him).

Perhaps we should send the BLM over to NK so they could confiscate some cattle

18 posted on 06/26/2017 12:50:04 AM PDT by Cowman (As Jerry Williams used to say --- When comes the revolution....)
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