Posted on 06/20/2017 7:59:25 AM PDT by Morgana
(WFLA) — A new report released by the Environmental Defense Fund found that a surprising amount of baby food samples had detectable levels of lead.
Researchers analyzed eleven years of federal data, tested 2,164 baby food samples and found lead in roughly 20 percent of them. The toxic metal was most commonly found in grape juice samples (89 percent), sweet potatoes samples (86 percent), and teething biscuits (47 percent).
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Sorry, in my haste I should have said steel shot instead.
However, I did refrain from saying something to the effect of those 300 people having their deaths being attributed to a particular type of acute lead poisoning.
Oh, would you please stop with the “activist and self appointed” nonsense. I could just as easily start calling you things also.
“Antifa” comes to mind, but I don’t think you are really that much of a mind numbed robot, so I will drop it hear and now if you show me the same consideration.
I realize that lead poisoning is your hobby-horse and your source of income. What you can't or won't admit is that some exposure to lead is unavoidable; that occasional exposure to minute quantities is simply NOT the end of the world. That inconvenient truth may cut into your bottom line, but it's still true.
I am reminded of the activists and self-appointed spokesmen who clamor for zero exposure to ionizing radiation. I wonder if you realize how ridiculous those peoples' demands are.
No, I will not stop with the truth. Tough.
Likening me to “Antifa” would not be the truth; I advise you not to do it.
Well, I can see that you have a couple of neurotransmitters still firing. It’s just to bad you don’t have the full compliment. You see lead platelets can develop from a plaque build up covering the receptacles an individual needs to process new information.
I suggest you go see a neurosurgeon to see if you can get some much needed help with that, Sparky.
If you insist on making a complete fool of yourself please feel free to make another post. However, I have found it impossible to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person, so don’t expect me to waste any more of my time responding to you.
You sure have a cavalier attitude with my granddaughters health. Feed it to your family.
Being overprotective can be harmful.
Thank you for admitting that you have nothing worthwhile to say; no actual information (new or old) to provide. Your entire contribution to this thread has been a void. A big fat zero. A vacuum. The empty set.
4year,
I believe it is best to just ignore the individuals who have no interest in helping others protect themselves or their families from a very preventable disease.
Their minds (what is left of them) are made up. Please make sure to tell your daughter about the lead in the foods. There are many places to get good information about the hazards and effects of lead poisoning. A good web location is from the Centers for Disease Control. They have alot of infomation and it isn’t coming directly from gov’t agencies which are so suspect.
I might add some of that speciousness is with good reason. But some of the gov’t’s information is accurate and true. Their reports aren’t always skewed in an attempt to scare people. Sometimes they are trying to educate people.
Those that choose the way of ignorance will have to suffer the consequences of their choices. However, I certainly hope those choices never effect anyone else close to them or anyone foolish enough to follow their POOR advise.
When correcting other people’s opinions with high minded arrogance, it helps to know how to spell.
It’s full complement, not compliment.
But then, I don’t know anything.
I’ve not read your previous posts on lead poisoning, it’s simply something that doesn’t interest me. My entire reason for posting was because the first posted said something about warning her kid to quit feeding her grandchild simply because of a nebulously sourced “study” using scare quotes and dodgy statistics.
A few years ago, a similar organization posted a breathless announcement about some additive in Gatorade that was going to immediately kill everyone who’s ever drank any. I looked up the SDS for that additive and discovered that the LD50 limit was something like 1/2 gallon of the additive in a 8 hour period, per day. Since the actual usage was in the single digit PPM of the Gatorade itself, it was nowhere near the LD50.
Given that, this group of do-gooders was simply trying to scare people into funding their further existence. This lead group is the same. Their report even confirmed that the lead present was inevitable because it was a product of the environment.
If you want to quit feeding your kid, have at it.
See also #50, in which actual information (I know, it's from a "so suspect" government agency) regarding lead concentrations found in certain foods is provided.
The idea that *any substance* has no safe level is wrong.
The dose makes the poison. Substances far more toxic than lead have safe levels.
Even lead and other heavy metals are *slowly* removed from the body over time.
I have read some of the “science” regarding lead toxicity at very low levels.
It is not persuasive. It is typical correlation-causation statistics with no or poor controls. It is quite similar to all the other scare substances “studies” that have been discredited over time. Examples are salt, ingestion of cholesterol, nitrites, second hand smoke, or red meat.
The problem with lead is that it *is* toxic. It is the idea that there is *no* safe level that is wrong.
There isn’t any food or drink in the world that does not have *some* lead in it. Everything has at least a few atoms of lead in it.
In a way, there is a little bit of truth to it, in that life can be defined as risk. The only time you are not at risk is when you are dead.
To focus on risks that are less than the risk you undergo by taking a breath is counter-productive.
Remember: We all are going to die. Nobody gets out of this life alive.
Get an organic sweet potato, throw it in the oven for 15-20 mins, cool, peel, blind or beat. Bingo, baby food!
Avocados also good.
CDC website: https://www.cdc.gov/
Okay, I should probably do more spell checking I miss some sometimes.
Regarding the news media’s propensity to use scare tactics I will agree it is a regular occurrence. However, it is not a universal. Some information can help keep real world, real time lead poisoning from re-occurring.
Now you can keep trying to shoot the messenger, I did apologize, but that doesn’t help the victims, and there are new victims everyday. Some are severe some not as much, but victims none the less.
I have knowledge on the subject. That isn’t arrogance, that means I’m not ignorant. So if you do not want to accept my apology that is your choice. I haven’t got a dog in that fight.
But I will try to help people ignore those others that spew misinformation due to a lack of knowledge and the common sense it takes to keep some opinions to themselves.
Avocados and sweet potatoes are wonderful foods.
Unless you have them tested, you have no idea how much lead is in them. “Certified Organic” doesn’t help, either. Even growing them yourself doesn’t help. Have you had your garden soil tested for lead? How about your water?
There is a group here in Maryland who is dedicated to reducing traffic deaths to zero.
An absolute impossibility. Reduce the speed limit to 5mph nationwide. Accidents will drop precipitously, however, people will still die, probably from stress induced cardiac arrest from being so mad at being forced to drive 5pmh.
The group that wrote this “report” was overall lead levels at <1ppmm, which as you noted is a complete impossibility.
Can it be lower? Maybe but this one “study” isn’t enough to make wholesale changes.
Otherwise, you end up with Alar, Saccarine and others.
DDT is probably the worst example. Junk Science and a book written by someone with a clear agenda is absolutely responsible for millions of needless deaths from Malaria. DDT would solve the Zika problem tomorrow, probably Lime disease too
Here is a contrary view on the Environmental Defense Fund Scare:
http://www.acsh.org/news/2017/06/20/dont-let-environmental-defense-fund-scare-you-about-lead-11446
Good graphs.
Here is a contrary view from the Environmental Defense Fund Scare:
http://www.acsh.org/news/2017/06/20/dont-let-environmental-defense-fund-scare-you-about-lead-11446
Good graphs.
Okay I understand the element of not being fully persuaded;yet. Lead will be removed from the body through the filtering systems like the kidneys. However, if their is enough lead exposure you will end up with damaged kidneys that in some instances is irreparable.
Women can have miscarriages, or still births, men can cause minor fetal malformations at conception. People in the construction trades, and who work on pre-1978 housing are at risk of poisoning themselves and thwe people living in those houses after the work is completed.
The big picture problem is that so many people don’t know how much exposure they have had are are continuing to be exposed to. The body thinks that the lead is the body building mineral iron so it tries to use it as such. It builds up with continuing exposures and some will even be stored in the bones for up to 30 years. At a minimum that hurts the formation of new red blood cells.
I could go on and on but I hope this at least helps to identify a major problem. The severity of the exposures and subsequent poisoning can only be determined by EBL (Elevated Blood Lead Level Testing.
Oh, it should also help folks begin to see why young developing fetuses and children 6 and under are at higher risk. Basically, iron=good and lead=bad; with growth rates being so much faster in the youngest it is no wonder smaller amount can do significant damage.
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