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To: SeekAndFind

As Apple seemingly retreats from the top tier, Microsoft and HP have moved in with high-end products, particularly Microsoft’s Surface Pro 4 laptop and Microsoft Surface Studio (which begins at $2,999, only only offers an i5 and 8GB RAM to start, which is criminal) and HP’s Envy line of laptops.

Unfortunately, Microsoft is copying, and out-gouging, Apple’s practice of obscene charges for extra options. HP, thankfully, has not gone that route, and its charges for options seem more reasonable.


2 posted on 06/04/2017 1:44:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Indeed. The surface pro doesn’t have the performance of the entry level Lenovo Yoga Pro. I got a Yoga for travel and it runs all my CAD CAM and engineering software. Granted not as fast as my powerstation back home but good enough for my frequent on the road travels. It’s $1000 cheaper and has hardware that is compliant with the software makers’ demands. The new Surface Studio looks fantastic for my line of work but the specs are just fluff not up to speed with even my 4 year old Dell workstation.

The software I use renders Apple a non issue to me. Nothing runs on it.


3 posted on 06/04/2017 2:00:09 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: SeekAndFind

Regain the edge? The 80’s are calling? MacOS is 80’s to the core.


4 posted on 06/04/2017 2:05:05 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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It’s too bad they put a Gay leftist as thier head. Jobs kept Apple from being overtly political. He was a lefty but made a point not to antagonize nearly half the country.
Much overlooked is Apple’s Pro Desktops. There’s nothing second rate about them. Really top notch high performance boxes.


5 posted on 06/04/2017 2:05:30 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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I’ll tell you what MS can do with that $3,000 laptop.


11 posted on 06/04/2017 3:20:27 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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As Apple seemingly retreats from the top tier, Microsoft and HP have moved in with high-end products, particularly Microsoft’s Surface Pro 4 laptop and Microsoft Surface Studio (which begins at $2,999, only only offers an i5 and 8GB RAM to start, which is criminal) and HP’s Envy line of laptops.

I really don't understand this. With the tiniest bit of research/knowledge, you can build your own computer, or find a small-time computer guy to do it for you. I've got an 8-core 4Ghz processor, 16G of ram, a 500G solid state, a 2T 7200 drive, a pretty good video card, and an awesome massive tower case. I can play (almost - haven't found an exception yet) anything on Steam at extreme/best settings, 1080p. Altogether a total of $1500. (add $100ish since I already had a monitor.) For $3000, you should be able to get a machine that can do just about anything except quantum computations. Seriously.
31 posted on 06/05/2017 12:40:55 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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