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The American Guts and Grit That Sank Japan at Midway
WSJ ^ | 2 June 2017 | Robert R. Garnett

Posted on 06/03/2017 8:09:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: blueunicorn6

First blow was struck by USA shortly after midnight on June 4

4 radar equipped PBY were sent out to strike the transport
convoy - it was bombed unsuccessfully that afternoon by B17

Torpedo struck oiler AKEBONO MARU in bow damaging it badly
Auxiliary cruiser KIYUSUMI MARU was strafed by the aircraft
wounding number of troops aboard


41 posted on 06/03/2017 12:18:26 PM PDT by njslim
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To: DUMBGRUNT

USS Yorktown, CV-5 was in dry dock at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard on Dec. 7 1941. She was in the yard because of damage received at sea during a storm in the Atlantic.
She sailed for the Pacific on Dec. 16, 1941.


42 posted on 06/03/2017 12:44:57 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: PAR35; DUMBGRUNT
But from Pearl Harbor until Kurita fled from Sprague at Samar, the Japanese fled from inferior forces instead of pressing forward to victory.

Taffy 3, and the Battle off Samar...

http://www.americanheritage.com/content/battle-samar

43 posted on 06/03/2017 1:57:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (Americ)
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To: Tallguy
The Japanese were also horrible at basic tasks like damage control. The USN leaned from the loss of the Lexington & the heavy damage incurred by the Yorktown that once you fly-off your strike aircraft, you drain your fuel lines, fill them with inert gas, to minimize any secondary explosions. Contrast that with the Japanese at Midway... ordnance strewn around the decks, fuel lines strung out...

I believe that they were arming their planes for a second strike on Midway, when an American carrier was sighted.

They then started switching to ordnance for attacking ships, and left the general-purpose land bombs on the decks until they could be stowed later.

Whoops.

44 posted on 06/03/2017 2:06:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (Americ)
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To: PAR35

“The Japs lost at Midway because, like at most of their other naval battles, they fled before finishing the job. I’m not sure cowardice is the right word to describe the senior Japanese naval commanders,”

There were seven aircraft carriers involved in the battle and all four of Japan’s large aircraft carriers—Akagi, Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu, part of the six-carrier force that had attacked Pearl Harbor six months earlier—and a heavy cruiser were sunk, while the U.S. lost only the carrier Yorktown and a destroyer.

As `armchair admiral’ what would you have done? Stuck around with the Yamato swatting at American dive bombers, losing it and other ships?
I agree that the Japanese broke off their attack on Pearl Harbor too soon. But at Midway they got their clocks cleaned and lost their air cover, so withdrawal was prudent.
There was nothing tentative about it. Their casualties were isolated and the Japanese people didn’t learn of this terrible ass-kicking for a long time.


45 posted on 06/03/2017 2:36:07 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: Enchante

Unfortunately, Adm. Nimitz & Adm. Mitscher were fixated on the Japanese carriers and failed to grasp that without aircrews carriers are simply white elephants.


46 posted on 06/03/2017 3:25:13 PM PDT by chb
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To: Dr. Ursus

The torpedo planes went in first. They were all shot down.

Supposedly, a Japanese Officer watched the torpedo planes pressing the attack even as the ones in front were shot down and said,

“They told us the Americans have no Bushido (warrior spirit). They lied. The Americans have Bushido.”


47 posted on 06/03/2017 3:36:28 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: laplata

Dec 5th the Russians counter attracted at Moscow Dec.7 and Dec.11 Hitler declared war on the U.S. All within six days.


48 posted on 06/03/2017 4:53:08 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: kiryandil

They were also resting their air crews. After a couple of strikes at Midway they were gassed. The air wings of Hiryu and Soryu were pretty small compared to their bigger sisters, and also when compared to US carriers. Essentially they had no reserve aircraft.


49 posted on 06/03/2017 4:55:28 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Dr. Ursus

Yes, it was a busy month.


50 posted on 06/03/2017 4:57:39 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: tumblindice

As the Japanese withdrew they left a couple of heavy cruisers back to in the hopes that they might catch the Enterprise & Hornet in a hasty pursuit. They were looking for a night surface action which they IJN excelled at. Spruance figured he’d done as much as could be expected and bagging another cruiser or 2 wasn’t worth risking his carriers, and so he withdrew. Even so US strike aircraft managed to nail one of those cruisers.


51 posted on 06/03/2017 5:00:29 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: blueunicorn6

Though I doubt that he actually said these exact words, the movie “Midway” sums up the Japanese astonishment at the Americans’ fighting spirit when Admiral Nagumo, after watching the U.S. torpedo squadrons press home their attacks and getting wiped out, says with astonishment, “They fight like samurai, these Americans!”

I had the privilege of attending a Battle of Midway commemoration at the National World War II Memorial today. Among the speakers was 93-year-old Senator Bob Dole, he of the gentle demeanor and self-depreciating sense of humor. Also in attendance were six veterans from the battle. This was probably the last chance those veterans would have in their lifetimes to see their glorious victory be publically commemorated. I’m so glad I was there to see it.


52 posted on 06/03/2017 6:37:35 PM PDT by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

great site! Love this one...

Send Leakers to Jail Washington’s blabocracy is endangering our national security. By Deroy Murdock

Posted By Ruth King on June 3rd, 2017

As for the Miracle at Midway, I love the word Miracle because historically, there have been miracles (George Washington not having been killed in battle for example). God does put the right person in the right place at the right time to keep His plans for this world on schedule and under budget. :)


53 posted on 06/03/2017 8:40:55 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: tumblindice

No, you need to go back and look at the order of battle. After the Battle of Midway, Japanese forces were largely intact except for the Carrier Strike force.

Main Force had Hosho, Chiyoda, and Nisshin.

Invasion Force had Zuiho;

Occupation force had Chitose and the freighter Kamikawa Maru (8 fighters and 4 scouts).

And the Northern Force, which was intended as a diversion anyway, could have been brought down to supply additional cover after the landings. Ryujo; and Jun’yo;

Since the Americans had only 8 cruisers against a far superior surface fleet and a slight advantage in available aircraft, the Japs should have been able to drive the Americans off (Guadalcanal and Wake should have told the Japs that the American navy wasn’t willing to risk carriers to save a few marines on on an island) and a determined drive would have won the day.


54 posted on 06/03/2017 9:18:22 PM PDT by PAR35
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