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This essay is my way to remember annually the extraordinary men who surrounded me growing up; men who seemed to consider their WW II service as a common rite of passage. My contact with these men started about age ten when my dad began taking me out golfing on the weekends. There was a man who used the first golf cart I ever saw, because as a brigade commander of the 41th infantry in New Guinea he was debilitated by sickness. I remember one fairly good golfer who had a weird back swing. I found out he was crippled while serving with the Big Red One in Sicily. My Economics professor in college served with one of the first UDT teams to clear barricades and mines in the surf zone before Pacific landings. I often ended up as a dishwasher at the country club and noticed the chef always limped as he moved around the kitchen. He saw my puzzled look, and said he got the limp from a wound received when he was with the Rangers at Pointe De Hoc. Those are just a few of the stories I remember among so many others I could tell or have forgotten.

Men like these, who at the same time are both extraordinary and ordinary, should never be forgotten. The reference and links contain much more information.

1 posted on 05/29/2017 8:46:17 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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My Father was a combat engineer in WWII.

He spoke very highly of the infantry. He also admired the armored divisions.


2 posted on 05/29/2017 8:52:22 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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And just what were the ROE for WWII infantry?

The infantry we have today is just as good. And much better equipped.

And with the right civilian leaders....


3 posted on 05/29/2017 8:54:27 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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6 posted on 05/29/2017 9:02:18 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (I think therefore im Dangerous to the liberal agenda !)
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Very well done. I was not infantry, I was a Headquarters Pog. My dad was not infantry, he commanded an LCT on Utah Beach. He had an Army engineer company, with bulldozers and TNT.


7 posted on 05/29/2017 9:04:27 AM PDT by real saxophonist ( YouTube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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Nice job, Mike, but why exclude mountain, airborne, and armored infantry? You also left out the Mediterranean Theater which had infantry elements.


8 posted on 05/29/2017 9:09:04 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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Very detailed with maps and CMH awardees


Marines in the Central Solomons



THE CAMPAIGN ON NEW BRITAIN


The Recapture of Guam


Iwo Jima Amphibious Epic

9 posted on 05/29/2017 9:12:50 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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I saw on Book TV a few years ago, an author taking highlights out of his book on the organization the processed the effects of dead service personnel.

So, the usual, live munitions, etc, as well as embarrassing stuff from any and all paramours, particularly if the deceased was married, was filtered out.

The book covered the expansion of the facility (in MO, iirc) as the war went on.

It also went into the steady lowering of the physical requirements for a rifleman as the supply was “depleted”.


12 posted on 05/29/2017 9:37:14 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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If anyone reading knows anything about 109th Infantry Regiment, 28th Infantry Division Army in Nov 1945 or can tell me where to look, I am starting research on Pvt James M Derflinger, MIA. His widow (married 4-6 days while on leave before deployment) told me about him and I have pics on my phone. She is 92. He is a Virginian. I'll upload tomorrow.


14 posted on 05/29/2017 9:46:27 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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I too grew up with WW II vets all around. Rarely was the war spoken of by them on an extended basis, but it was often referred to in popular entertainment and figured large in our boys’ games and in our imaginations. To a remarkable degree, we live in a world that remains deeply shaped by America’s sacrifices and victory in WW II. As a Baby Boomer, I know that much of what my generation and those following have enjoyed came from the WW II generation.


15 posted on 05/29/2017 9:53:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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I hear you, Mike. My own father and uncles are a fine microcosm.....somehow, though, they all served in the Pacific, and none of them were infantry.

My father’s army engineer battalion built airfields across the pacific, from Hawaii starting in Jan 1942 through VJ day on Okinawa. McArthur asked for the battalion for Japanese occupation duty, but didn’t get them, as they had the longest term of overseas duty of any army construction battalion.

My uncles service included a navy fighter pilot, aircraft mechanic, a sailor type, a marine officer (don’t recall his speciality) who received a great deal of ribbing because his name is McArathur.

Then, I had a school teacher who appears in a famous photo from the Korean War. Four marines crouching in the ruins of Seoul after the landing at Inchon, one shooting back at a sniper with an M1 carbine. He said that he was so terrified, could hardly even remember his own name, but kept fighting and advancing because he was a Marine.

Most of the sons of the WW2 and Korea generation in my family have served our own terms in the military. I did 6 years in the USAF. A nephew is currently a foreign service officer, with an office in the US Embassy in Kabul. He, of course, is serving his own time in a war zone. He hears bombs detonating somewhere in town most weeks.


17 posted on 05/29/2017 10:20:54 AM PDT by jimtorr
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18 posted on 05/29/2017 10:22:45 AM PDT by xp38
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“100% or more casualties.”

Didn’t know there was more than 100%.


20 posted on 05/29/2017 10:29:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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A sad lesson, one that should have been learned from WW1 and Great Britain, is the potential and real tragedy of National Guard Divisions in all-out war. Given the makeup of these 'neighborhood soldier' organizations, you would and can find instances of an entire town that has lost an entire generation of their youth in the course of the war.

My late Father, was a member of the 45th ID (Oklahoma, Colorado & New Mexico), and it was only late in life that he could speak of the many boyhood friends that he lost in the battles that the 45th fought from Sicily to Munich. While there were changes after the War, more were lost in Korea, a war that my Father was forever bitter about for the incompetent commanders and the hang-fire outcome, as we see in today's headlines!

There is a very REAL conversation found in the movie "To Hell and Back" (Audie Murphy biopic starring Audie Murphy) where a new replacement soldier complains about how coldly his platoon Sergeant (Audie Murphy) treats him. A non-newbie acquaints him with the cold truth of combat, that newbies, no matter how well trained, die at far higher numbers than their experienced counterparts. He is 'assured' that, if he survives the next few rounds of combat, that the friendships will be made, but for now, too many newbies have died to risk added loss!

Remember the Fallen, do not let them be forgot! God Bless!

22 posted on 05/29/2017 10:34:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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WW II had it’s heroes. Does anyone remember Collin Kelly or Roger Young? Probably not. Late 44’ to 45’ Roger Young’s ballad was on the radio. About 6 months ago I was at a yard sale and found a 37th Div.1942 year book. To my surprise, there was Roger Young right where he belonged. I decided to hold on to it. It goes to show you the geekiest looking guy can end up a hero. (A MOH winner fighting in the Solomon Islands.) The other name, Collin Kelly, did a kamikaze attack on a Japanese surface ship with a B-17, if I recall correctly. Both individuals were in songs at that time. “There’s a star spangled banner waiving somewhere” mentioned Kelly. The “Ballard of Roger Young” is all about Roger. My family had it’s share, 3 of my mothers cousins were lost over the skies of Germany, they were bombing my fathers cousins under the sky. (I’m a first generation American, and experienced stories from both sides.) My folks knew what the war did over seas and didn’t want me to be part of another one. When JFK drafted me in 62’ it was the turning point for me, 31 years later my service time ended with “0” regrets. I was a very lucky one, never fired a shot at anyone, nor did anyone fire a shot at me. Could I have been a hero? Who knows? Did Roger Young look like he would be a hero? You never know what you can do until that time arises and the choice confronts you. We are all potential heroes.


29 posted on 05/29/2017 12:41:01 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Again it disapeared? Damn cursor is in cahoots with the tag line.)
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46 posted on 05/30/2017 6:17:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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