[Vince Ferrer]

It didn't start with Obama and Hillary and you know that.

Violence in the middle east did not start with Obama, but the "Arab Spring," to knock off stable governments and install the muslim brotherhood did begin with Obama. In fact, it started with Obama's trip to Egypt.

[Theoria]

Sure, if you skip the major fire of toppling Saddam. The Arab Spring was/is just icing on the cake.