Posted on 05/09/2017 11:20:14 AM PDT by BJ1
This may come as a shock to you, but it seems Christ expected humans to behave differently from animals.
Also, social creatures have mechanisms for optimizing reproductive fitness - which precludes “humping anything they can corner”.
“Yea I tend to care about all Americans. :) Call me silly that way. But you focus on yourself. Sounds like you’re good at it :)”
I’ll take good care of the ones who are on my side. I appreciate the ad hominem, though! :)
Another obvious reason in these days of sexual revolution:
Why would you buy the cow if you get the milk for free?
I was talking to some older men a while back. They told me that back in their day, they were eager to get married, in part, so that they would get to have sex.
The sex revolution has upset the dynamic of male/female interactions, in my opinion, as has contributed to lower rates of marriage, and people getting married at higher ages.
Indeed, which means you were incorrect when you tried to say Christ ordered us to get married.
>>Seriously, marriage today is really quite a risky venture on the man’s part due to just the legal conditions
And excuses are like a certain part of anatomy. Everybody has one and they all stink.
My wife and I will be celebrating our 30th anniversary.
We both RTFM.
This whole thing why younger folks are not getting married can be summed up. America, due to terrible corrupt leadership has declined in every direction for decades.
We are now seeing the results. A lot of women and men in the future will die alone. Bet the rent.
I am 28, believe in chastity until marriage, and only consider dating other Christians now. Last agnostic I gave a chance to was in the process of discovering she was a lesbian...
However, I have to admit women my age that are Biblically sound are extremely rare. I’ve always wanted to be a good husband and father.... but given the choices I have, its better I’ve stayed single.
Even millennials can’t find one they like enough to tie the knot.
Nice man-made doctrine you got there.
>>Christ ordered us
Those are your words.
What did I say?
There is another dynamic I think is being ignored.
Most millenials are flocking to the urban centers. There “seems” to be so much opportunity for careers, multiple partners, and a vast world that never ends.
Wanting to live outside a city, even in a suburb, and raise a family is just not their life-time goals. They want to be hip, live in the city, and be a hipster. Being married in a small town or suburb is just so NOT cool.
“This may come as a shock to you, but it seems Christ expected humans to behave differently from animals.”
There you go moving the goalposts again. You tried “Christ said” first, then switched to “Natural Law”, and now you’re running back to “Christ expected”.
I guess it’s tough to pick an argument and stick to it when you keep making bad arguments.
“Also, social creatures have mechanisms for optimizing reproductive fitness - which precludes “humping anything they can corner”.”
Almost all creatures balance the benefits of seeking the best mate and reproducing as often as possible, and it is generally the female that is selective, while the male is driven biologically to reproduce with as many partners as possible. There are rare exceptions, but they are exceptions, not the rule.
You said Christ directed us to marry. Don’t you consider Christ’s directions to be “orders”? You don’t accept His authority as Lord?
Took my daughter to watch The Smurfs last Saturday. Reserved seating, reclining leather seats. We sat down next to a mother and her 2 boys ages ~ 4 and 6. We were the only people in the row. The mother was 30-ish, tall, thin, blue-eyed with long blond hair with what appeared to be a permanent scowl. Not appealing at all and she had expensive shoes and purse. During the movie she started body flirting with me. As my daughter was sitting between us it disgusted me. I looked to the side to watch the movie to get her to turn it off. Not interested at all.
At the end of the movie, walking out her boys ran ahead. I asked the older boy how he liked the movie. He said it was ok (yeah, it’s a chick flick). The boys were muted to the point of seeming depressed. Noted. So where’s dad? At that point I figured something bad had transpired with their dad, not by accident.
So, outside walking to our car my daughter and I walk past them. As we go by I hear the older boy say to his mother “I liked it but I wish dad was here”. To which the mother responded “he doesn’t have the money to see it. That’s why he’s in jail.”
>>Nice man-made doctrine you got there. Nope: Mark 3:29 29
NIV
What’s the difference between forgiveness of sin in the body of Christ, His bride which is the Church — and permission to sin manufactured by those operating in the spirit of anti-Christ who covet and seek to defile the bride of Christ?
>>You tried “Christ said” first, then switched to “Natural Law”,
Christ, the temporal incarnation of the Creator of the Universe.
That Christ?
Who do you think defined Natural Law?
>>Don’t you consider Christ’s directions to be “orders”?
Got free will?
He gives us instructions for how to live a healthy happy life.
Is the service maintenance schedule in an automobile’s manual “orders”? No. They’re directions which, if followed, prevent problems.
>>That’s Vatican law. Not Biblical law. 1 Cor 6:15-16 15
NIV
Ex 20:14
14
"You shall not commit adultery.NIV
Prov 6:32-33
32
But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment;whoever does so destroys himself.
33
Blows and disgrace are his lot,and his shame will never be wiped away;
NIV
Matt 19:4-6 4
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You seem to confuse the term “adultery” (marital infidelity) with premarital sex.
The former is indeed a sin. The latter isn’t.
So when do they grow up and settle down? Ever?
I lived in a city as a young single man. I’ve know numerous people who have lived in these trendy urban neighborhoods. But they don’t live there forever, and don’t live there once they start families.
Maybe I don’t know enough hard core trendy people???
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