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How to Run a Medicare Surplus Without Raising Taxes or Cutting Benefits
Newsmax ^ | 4-29-17 | Chuck Bolotin

Posted on 04/30/2017 2:36:13 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic

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It's a simple matter of connecting the dots:

1. We aren't addressing the Medicare funding issue. 2. The healthcare costs less abroad.

So why not allow solve our Medicare funding issue by allowing people to receive medical care abroad?

1 posted on 04/30/2017 2:36:14 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic

I can’t see a country of old timers moving around the world to get health care.
If one spouse goes, the other will have to go.

Who has that kind of money as a retiree?

Will the Feds provide funds for airfare & room and board ?

ain’t happening.


2 posted on 04/30/2017 2:43:33 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic

Put another way:. why do we allow people from abroad to get free health care here in usa?


3 posted on 04/30/2017 2:45:21 PM PDT by thinden
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic

Unless Obamacare is repealed, then this is just applying more mascara on a pig.


4 posted on 04/30/2017 2:48:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic
As an example, I can visit my general practitioner here in Mexico for less than $20 out of pocket, without insurance. A visit to a specialist such as my neurosurgeon will set me back $40, also out of pocket with no insurance. Apart from my personal experiences, on the Best Places in the World to Retire website we have more than 400 expats who have answered close to 1,000 questions about the cost of healthcare in Mexico, Panama and even Nicaragua, with the overwhelming majority reporting that the costs were significantly less than half of what they paid in the U.S.

I don't know.

I have a 90 year-old aunt who lives in Mexico, but she returns to the US to see her doctors.

Want to run a Medicare surplus? Tax everyone a dollar a year and stop paying for anything. It would be nice if insurance were outlawed at the same time too, so we could all afford medical care here in the US.

I say this as a geezer who has been on Medicare for several years now.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 04/30/2017 2:51:40 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: stylin19a

A lot of people who are retirement age purposely travel as part of their life’s goals; good and more affordable healthcare is a bonus.


6 posted on 04/30/2017 2:52:53 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic

US GPs and specialists could accept payments like that if they didn’t have the admin overhead imposed by CMMS rules. Perhaps not exactly that low but certainly a reasonable amount.


7 posted on 04/30/2017 2:58:03 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic

All they need to do is pay back the almost $20T they borrowed/stole and things would be fine.


8 posted on 04/30/2017 2:58:43 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I can’t see a country of old timers moving around the world to get health care. If one spouse goes, the other will have to go. Who has that kind of money as a retiree? Will the Feds provide funds for airfare & room and board ? ain’t happening.

Major surgery overseas can cost significantly less, including airfare and hotel, than here in the states.

A secondary benefit is that it will "light a fire" under the AMA monopoly and the Insurance and Tort lawyer cartels.

(of course, that may be precisely why it will not get past Congress even though it would save a ton of money!)

Competition is good!

9 posted on 04/30/2017 2:59:05 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: thinden

Dem voters; that’s why.


10 posted on 04/30/2017 2:59:35 PM PDT by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
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To: ThankYouFreeRepublic
I'd start with malpractice reform, and start going from there.

And ALL the campaigner donors to Bob Menendez, particularly the ones with involved with Medicaid/Medicare reimbursements...

11 posted on 04/30/2017 3:04:12 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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I think the article has merit. I do think a signification percentage of people would take advantage of it. 20%?

But think of the opportunity for fraud...


12 posted on 04/30/2017 3:09:20 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: lulu16

as of 2015:

Total Medicare beneficiaries = 55.3
aged = 46.3 million
disable = 9.0 million

author is talking about being an ex-pats.
He lives there.
At what point, cost wise, does one travel for medical care ?

combine vacation travel with medical care ?
probably not.
one or the other.

The author then ends with this straw man:
“However, to those who reject it, I have a question: What is your better solution?”

He doesn’t really give a solution, as he does not explain how to make the headline work.


13 posted on 04/30/2017 3:10:43 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: T-Bird45

Exactly right, T-Bird45! It’s all the other stuff other than taking care of patients that costs so much


14 posted on 04/30/2017 3:15:37 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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Wouldn’t it be easier to just Enforce EXISTING Consumar Protection Laws??

The Executive has the power and duty to enforce the law. 15 USC Chapter 1, which is where The Sherman, Clayton and Robinson-Patman acts reside, is an extremely powerful body of law bearing on exactly the sort of conduct the entire medical system engages in daily.

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15 posted on 04/30/2017 3:17:53 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: stylin19a

There are lots of people who do this right now, but for dental work, which of course, isn’t covered by Medicare. In good free enterprise form, Mexican dental clinics have set up right across the border, and many offer hotel stays as well. The cost is so ridiculously less that the difference between what the government would pay and what the patient would pay would cover more than the costs of going abroad and the patient would even have money left over to spend how he or she pleases. Everyone wins.

The feds don’t have to provide funds for airfare, room and board, etc., or anything else. Free enterprise will take care of that. All they need to do is to write the voucher.


16 posted on 04/30/2017 3:19:38 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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Well said, BwanaNdege. Competition is good. We need to break up the monopoly, which will make everything more effective... or dead. We need to open our minds to find creative solutions. You said it exactly right.


17 posted on 04/30/2017 3:23:02 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

I agree. About 20% is a good estimate. It would also open up some competition and shine a light on the absurd costs here compared to other places.

Regarding fraud, there is of course fraud now, and there would be fraud with this solution, but that could be addressed.


18 posted on 04/30/2017 3:25:19 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: stylin19a

The solution is this:

If, for example, a Medicare patient needs a hip replacement and Medicare would pay $40,000, they cut a check to the patient for 75%, or $30,000. Result= Medicare saves $10,000.

The patient then goes abroad, where a hip replacement would be around $10,000, so he has $20,000 left over. He would use the $20,000 for travel and have quite a bit left over, to say the least.

This would encourage LOTS of people to travel abroad for care, which provide competition and other good secondary effects.

I haven’t checked the numbers, but I believe them to be approximately correct.

Already, there is a thriving medical tourism industry that helps with this, but only for items that are not covered by insurance, such as plastic surgery, dental care, etc. They would scale to meet demand, and medical practices would make it as easy as possible by moving as close to the US border as possible. This has already happened with “Molar City”, an area just over the Arizona / Mexican border that is very popular.


19 posted on 04/30/2017 3:33:07 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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I had a medical emergency in Costa Rica some years back. I woke up in the hospital and was told I likely had had a mini stroke, a TIA. I was in intensive care for three days, two of which had a nurse in my room 24 hours a day. Three or four doctors came to see me, the president of the hospital a nun who might have been 100, came to pray for my well-being. Two C.A.T. scans and other tests as well. The whole thing cost me and my insurance maybe $5000.


20 posted on 04/30/2017 3:37:07 PM PDT by hanamizu
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