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To: Rockingham
The first issue is the value of abstract propositions against what I refer to as "society’s experience and settled judgment," especially as reflected in laws and institutions. In particular, you see as compelling the abstract proposition that alcohol and marijuana merit equal treatment in law. I accept no such thing and defer to the general legal prohibition of marijuana as correct unless clearly demonstrated otherwise.

My position that laws on mind altering substances should consistently reflect the reality of those substances, is no more "abstract" than your deference to an "experience and settled judgment" that you admit includes past ludicrous stereotypes.

You see a simple majority opinion in favor of marijuana legalization as authoritative.

No, that's just the latest of your many mischaracterizations of my argument. I raised the point about public opinion simply in order to show that YOUR criterion of what "most American adults from the 1970s onward got to know about marijuana from using it or having friends or family who used it" favors MY position. That's what happens when you make up your "principles" as you go along: you wind up rebutting your own position.

You assert, dogmatically, that because alcohol is also awful but legal, so also should marijuana be legal.

Yet another mischaracterization from you. My position is the common-sense one that comparably hazardous products merit comparable legal restrictions; if you were taking the position (as a few on FR have) that alcohol should also be illegal, we'd have agreed on the aforementioned common sense ... but you reject common sense here.

I have to ask: what evidence or point of argument might convince you to oppose marijuana legalization?

If somehow it was shown that marijuana use in and of itself regularly posed a clear and present danger to people other than the user - against all the evidence to date that shows no such thing - then I would find the case for legalization very much weaker. Although criminalization's providing substantial means and motive for criminal violence would remain a point against it.

135 posted on 04/24/2017 11:10:47 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Rockingham
I forgot to ask: how does a federal prohibition that's only a few years older than the New Deal, and Wickard v. Filburn's evisceration of limits on federal power, qualify as a "settled judgment"? Are the New Deal and Wickard v. Filburn also "settled judgments" to which you would have us defer?
136 posted on 04/24/2017 11:17:00 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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