Posted on 04/11/2017 10:15:19 AM PDT by Morgana
The reports yesterday said the guy was off the plane and then ran to get back on.
Put yourself as a fellow passenger on this plane. The guy leaves and then comes running back on with airline employees screaming at him.
What would the average person’s thoughts be at that time? In the US. After 9/11.
He’s probably lucky seven guys didn’t get up and jump on him.
The doctor purchased a service that allowed the provider to remove him from the flight. He’s the one who didn’t live up to the agreement.
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Actually NO! The agreement (section 25) states they can deny boarding... He had boarded , UNITED has no right to remove boarded passengers under their contract. They verbally assaulted this man who was asserting his contracted rights until he responded and then used his “indignant” response as an excuse to have police beat him and drag him off.
United had an urgent need to get crew to a destination 300 miles away to avoid cascading cancellations due to being unable to meet FAA regs for pilot rest... They could have handled this much better. That doctor has a strong case and will cost UNITED millions ,, he already has in bad publicity.
Todd Beamer, a passenger had to get the rest of the passengers to storm the cockpit and try to save the plane. NOT the Stewardesses. Was was this not done by the crew of United?
What does this have to do with some ex-con doctor misbehaving on United yesterday?
The guy shouldnt have resisted when United ask him to get off the plane. Yeah, I know it sucks, but thats the rules. Once he resisted, the authorities came in, and boom
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UNITED had no valid reason to ask him to leave the plane.
resistance against tyrants is American
Well, I suspect that if you or I had been Tazed in the manner that he was, from inches, and beaten by thug cops, we'd be pretty incoherent and screaming also. I wouldn't judge the quality of your work from a video that someone took of you in that circumstance; I hope you'd judge me likewise.
Interesting...CNN has him as a Chinese.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/11/asia/united-passenger-dragged-off-china-reaction/
These people have a way of finding each other. Just look at Bill and Hillary.
Flying is a privilege, not a right.
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Once I buy a ticket , pass through security , am assigned seating and board the aircraft it is NOT A PRIVILEDGE... I paid for the right to be taken to my destination.
UNITED PURPOSELY FAILED TO PROPERLY EXPLAIN HOW BADLY THEY WERE IN A BIND TO GET THAT CREW MOVED TO AVOID HAVING TO OFFER MORE TO ANY PASSENGER THAT MIGHT VOLUNTARILY VACATE.
I’m guessing you go along with the states mumbo jumbo that travel on the roads is a priviledge too... that we don’t have a right to move about the country.
“The doctor purchased a service that allowed the provider to remove him from the flight. He’s the one who didn’t live up to the agreement.
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Actually NO! The agreement (section 25) states they can deny boarding... He had boarded , UNITED has no right to remove boarded passengers under their contract. They verbally assaulted this man who was asserting his contracted rights until he responded and then used his “indignant” response as an excuse to have police beat him and drag him off.”
Yes, you are right. Earlier today I heard lawyers on Fox News say the same thing,that once a passenger boarded, they cannot be removed for accommodating another passenger. The lawyers said it should have been done at the gate. The passenger became disruptive after he was on the plane and they tried to remove him. United could have bought tickets for their Louisville crew on another airline or bus them there. I was a flight attendant in the past and this is unheard of. You accomodate the paying customer first. Shame on United. They will not win this one. Some idiot supervisor was directing this.
They have to explain it, in writing. They did not. They didn’t want to, because they would have had to disclose to the person being bumped that they were being bumped by employees.
The carriage agreement is slanted way toward the airlines, but the one thing they have to do is explain it in writing.
The airline’s next move is to escalate it so they can establish interference, which is a very low bar to get over. Now you don’t need to explain it in writing.
Guy ran back on board. Now its a public mess and Congress will likely be on that contract.
You pay to be flown somewhere, so its an exchange. The airline was in the process of committing fraud by not supplying in writing the reason for the involuntary, and then provoking the passenger to establish interference.
As a matter of contract law, the airline’s got a lot of lawyers and probably knows the judge. As a matter of good faith, the other airlines are not happy that Congress will likely jump into regulatory mode on the contract.
As a matter of United, the CEO’s going to parachute, the underlings will likely be reassigned, because firing them will be public, and more messy, more longer.
If you buy a ticket to go somewhere, unless there is a physical reason why not, they should take you where you are going without much of a hassle, beyond that which was essentially required when we gave up most of our rights just to get into the airport.
So, there you go.
This will cost United a bunch of money, but in the end, Uncle Sugar needs the airlines to get our military people where they need to go, so nothing permanently bad is going to happen to United.
Could be. Let's have a look at the fine print on those documents he carried.. boarding pass and ticket and such.
Maybe something he clicked "I agree" on for online booking.
You're discussing what you think should be.. not what IS.
“I’m guessing you go along with the states mumbo jumbo that travel on the roads is a priviledge too... that we don’t have a right to move about the country.”
People have become such sheeple in the whole Western World! I think the whole TSA process is abusive and few stop to question “why are we doing this and what caused this problem?” We don’t fight these abuses. United and American have become completely more Nazi-like. They start trying to bully you about your carry-on bag before you board and when you say something like, “I brought this bag on the same flight 2 weeks ago”, you have to worry that they will say you are a disruptive passenger and deny you boarding. It’s pretty bad!
I would counter that acting like a jerk does not warrant being Tazed and beaten by thug cops. Drawing a switchblade, or some other weapon, YES; physically threatening another passenger, YES; being a jerk, NO.
It was United’s airplane, if they say to get off, then you should GTFO.
This character has the mindset of an era that predates the invention of contracts.
With the kind of people among us, it’s a surprise we still are not back in caves.
An Asian family and every one is a doctor. I wonder why they didnt scream for welfare and other subsistence but instead just got it done?
“”First of all it’s their fault they overbooked...”
You can’t remove a passenger from a plane after they have boarded, just for the purpose of putting on a different passenger: per airline lawyers. The only way is if the passenger acts up. He didn’t do that until they tried to remove him.
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