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Deceased Oklahoma Robbery Suspect’s Grandfather Says ‘Unfair’ to Shoot Grandson with AR-15
Breitbart ^ | 4/2/17 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on 04/02/2017 11:58:30 PM PDT by RC one

The grandfather of one of three suspects killed during the alleged March 27 home invasion in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, says the use of an AR-15 against the suspects was “unfair.”

According to  Tulsa World, Wagoner County Sheriff’s deputy Nick Mahoney said the three suspects “were wearing all-black clothing, masks, and gloves” and allegedly “forced their way into the home through a glass door in the back.” The homeowner’s son was asleep at the time and awoke to “loud bangs” as the suspects made entrance. The son grabbed the AR-15 and opened fire when the intruders walked into the hallway.

Deputy Mahoney said “investigators found a knife on one of the deceased in the kitchen and brass knuckles on the other.”

ABC 8 reports that Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of deceased 17-year-old suspect Jacob Redfearn, says what the boys “did was stupid” but they did not deserve to die.” He added, “Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life.”

He said the use of the AR-15 meant “his grandson didn’t have a chance.” He said, “There’s got to be a limit to that law, I mean he shot all three of them; there was no need for that.”

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To: RC one

Grandpa would be happier if they’d been shot with a six-shooter.......


81 posted on 04/03/2017 6:16:39 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: RC one
unfair

The only fair fight is the one I win. How's that for "fair".

82 posted on 04/03/2017 6:26:46 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: RC one

I love stories with happy endings.


83 posted on 04/03/2017 6:38:19 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Nailbiter
“Would have been more fair to splatter them around with shotgun blasts???”

I think Granpa would prefer they be shot with a PHASED PLASMA RIFLE - 40 WATT RANGE.

Clean up is much easier. Just sweep up and air the place out.

84 posted on 04/03/2017 6:53:29 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: doug from upland

Grandpa can not admit his failure, in not stepping into his grandson’s life and correcting, nurturing and teaching the proper way of life. So he has to blame someone else in his own failure.

Grandpa knew his grandson was a scumbag and did nothing to help him.


85 posted on 04/03/2017 6:54:26 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: baltimorepoet
You know what is unfair, is not being allowed to live in your house in peace.<<<

Come on!!!.....that's just a minor inconvenience if you know the whole story.....all 3 of the young lads were just starting to turn their lives around..in fact..they had made a vow that this would be their last strong arm robbery, in fact 2 of them were planing to become doctors and the other a lawyer.....Think of all the good they would have done if the grandson hadn't been so “unfair” to them......./s

86 posted on 04/03/2017 6:54:28 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The one in the middle is a “whigger.”


87 posted on 04/03/2017 7:12:41 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Vermont Lt
He would have gotten a head full of double ought in many other houses,

Well, if you're going to use a shotgun, and aren't primarily concerned with interior damage....


88 posted on 04/03/2017 7:26:09 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: wita
I might agree if I knew more. I have never seen the rounds but then I wasn’t looking for them either. Judging by the amount of information and criteria by police departments on their use, I would say finding the rounds could be interesting and maybe difficult. I will continue the internet search for information.

Less than lethal rounds can still be lethal. Consequently, I have a hard time imagining a situation in which an armed citizen would be justified in shooting but not justified in using real ammunition. That said, here's a source for less than lethal ammunition: https://www.armausa.com/purchase/arma-100-kit/


89 posted on 04/03/2017 7:29:45 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The white boys were nice looking. Too bad, so sad they’re dead. The third one, well I’m done with commenting on matters that might make me seem intolerant of our darker skinned citizens. (Or their light skinned mothers...what a plague that is!)


90 posted on 04/03/2017 7:32:52 AM PDT by Scarpetta (ue)
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To: M-cubed
all 3 of the young lads were just starting to turn their lives around..in fact..they had made a vow that this would be their last strong arm robbery, in fact 2 of them were planing to become doctors and the other a lawyer.....

1. Shoot the one with plans to become a lawyer first. And twice.

2. After dealing with the others, give him an additional *certainty* headshot.

3. After the shooting is over, go in with the bayonet, just to make sure. No sense in taking any chances whatsoever.

91 posted on 04/03/2017 7:35:55 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

An Irishman who’s a bit of an Anglophile. Pip pip and all that rot, fer f’sake!


92 posted on 04/03/2017 7:36:40 AM PDT by Scarpetta (ue)
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To: RC one

Is there a “fair” way to invade a home and rob it?


93 posted on 04/03/2017 7:38:09 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: RC one
At least it was a .223. If it'd been an M-1 or a M1-A his grandkid would have been in a closed casket ceremony.
94 posted on 04/03/2017 8:06:10 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Scarpetta

Janey Mac, you’ve got a mouth on ya!

CC


95 posted on 04/03/2017 8:34:01 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: dp0622

I’ve seen ERASERHEAD. A strange film which does not make any sense at all, so the critics and film buffs work overtime heaping praise on it.
You may be demanding two hours of your life back after seeing it.

And then again you might be like the film critic in AFTER THE FOX(1966), Courtroom scene.
“BRAVO! BRAVO! It’s a work of art, a classic. He’s a genius. what depth. what meaning. I cried, I laughed! THAT MAN IS A GENIUS!” (then the critic is thrown out of the courtroom)


96 posted on 04/03/2017 8:36:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( "You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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To: RC one

Unfair? Sorry, but B&E is not a game, it is a crime. As war dictates, if you show up with a sword and the enemy has a tank, that is your fault.

These guys were armed with brass knuckles and knives.... this wasn’t just a ‘lets break into an unused place’. They came armed knowing they may need to hurt someone to commit their crime...


97 posted on 04/03/2017 8:44:42 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: archy
lol......you and I would get along great....You changed my mind!...only thing i disagree with is using the bayonet.....that's getting too close for me...id just roll a hand grenade close to their heads and step back....
98 posted on 04/03/2017 8:48:09 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: RC one

At least we can see who the dead criminal inherited his stupid from. I am surprised idiot Grandpa has lasted this long.


99 posted on 04/03/2017 9:22:16 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: RC one
Maybe they could have used this:
100 posted on 04/03/2017 9:49:59 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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