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To: WinMod70; Iscool; right way right; John S Mosby; piytar; gop4lyf; wrench; normbal; OldMagazine

Ok, I was delayed again by rain, but, we were able to get the caliper bolts off, today.

I picked up an air wrench, but, it also failed to get the bolts loose. I was stunned. Possibly my compressor does not have enough air flow, but, I tried multiple short bursts, with the idea that surely the tank could supply enough air for two second long bursts. Air pressure @ the tank is plenty adequate, and the engaged surfaces of the bolt heads “shinied up” quickly / nicely from the impacts, but, no luck on turning the bolts.

The solution was to grind off the bevel on the 17mm socket, use a longer (25”) breaker bar, making sure the bar stayed @ 90 deg. to the swivel head (one HAS to turn the front wheel for enough clearance). Then I hung on, as tight as I could, to the swivel head and socket, to keep it “square” on the hex head while putting “some” torque on the bar, and my wife gave it all she had @ the handle of the breaker bar.

THAT did it.

The bolt threads look clean, with no sign of thread-lock or corrosion.

Obviously these bolts are in a spot where they CANNOT come loose in use. But, that said, I would estimate breaking free the tightest required ~180 ft-lb. of torque (95 lb. wife, ~22” out, pushing down, plus maybe 20-30 ft-lb. I could contribute from my position.) These bolts measure (at the smooth part of the shaft) 0.390” dia., very close to a 3/8” bolt. A table I checked says that a 3/8” Grade 8 bolt is good for 232 lb-ft. max. Dang...

The bolt is a 17mm washer head bolt, with the height of the head only 4.5mm (above the washer portion.) The shallow bolt head height really was the biggest part of the problem, as it made it tough for me to get enough torque applied.

BTW, I found some rather scary information pointing against the use of anti-seize on these bolt threads — will relocate and post...


126 posted on 03/22/2017 6:38:12 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: HandyDandy; TNoldman

Whups - I “lost” you two... :-)


Ok, I was delayed again by rain, but, we were able to get the caliper bolts off, today.

I picked up an air wrench, but, it also failed to get the bolts loose. I was stunned. Possibly my compressor does not have enough air flow, but, I tried multiple short bursts, with the idea that surely the tank could supply enough air for two second long bursts. Air pressure @ the tank is plenty adequate, and the engaged surfaces of the bolt heads “shinied up” quickly / nicely from the impacts, but, no luck on turning the bolts.

The solution was to grind off the bevel on the 17mm socket, use a longer (25”) breaker bar, making sure the bar stayed @ 90 deg. to the swivel head (one HAS to turn the front wheel for enough clearance). Then I hung on, as tight as I could, to the swivel head and socket, to keep it “square” on the hex head while putting “some” torque on the bar, and my wife gave it all she had @ the handle of the breaker bar.

THAT did it.

The bolt threads look clean, with no sign of thread-lock or corrosion.

Obviously these bolts are in a spot where they CANNOT come loose in use. But, that said, I would estimate breaking free the tightest required ~180 ft-lb. of torque (95 lb. wife, ~22” out, pushing down, plus maybe 20-30 ft-lb. I could contribute from my position.) These bolts measure (at the smooth part of the shaft) 0.390” dia., very close to a 3/8” bolt. A table I checked says that a 3/8” Grade 8 bolt is good for 232 lb-ft. max. Dang...

The bolt is a 17mm washer head bolt, with the height of the head only 4.5mm (above the washer portion.) The shallow bolt head height really was the biggest part of the problem, as it made it tough for me to get enough torque applied.

BTW, I found some rather scary information pointing against the use of anti-seize on these bolt threads — will relocate and post...


127 posted on 03/22/2017 6:42:25 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: Paul R.; Windflier

“... my wife gave it all she had @ the handle of the breaker bar.”

Well shoot! Why didn’t you ask your wife to get them off in the first place? After she brought you a beer to enjoy while you watched.

Just kidding! (and pinging Windflier)
Congrats, maybe they just way over-torqued them.


130 posted on 03/22/2017 6:55:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Paul R.

A Ford tech would have been expected to finish that in 1 hour.
1.4 if turning rotors.
You just lacked proper tooling, and or you have hot dog weiner arms.
Take your wife out for dinner for bailing you out.


133 posted on 03/22/2017 8:06:42 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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