Posted on 03/19/2017 9:14:52 AM PDT by MtnClimber
By 1860, there had been at least a decade of unrest among the silent majority – mostly farmers, Christians, and family people living outside the major urban areas. They were angry with the political establishment and wanted serious changes in the federal government. But they mostly sat silent because they had no political leader who accurately expressed their frustration with the system.
Then an outsider emerged who captured all of the common folks' attention, who promised to change Washington and how it worked and make America a more just country. Nobody gave this outsider a chance to win the presidency! He didn't know anything, they said. All of the established media predicted he would lose big against his well known, established, and well financed opponent.
Well, a funny thing happened. That outsider in 1860 won! And in 1861, all of the established politicians, the power brokers, and their followers decided to secede from the Union and start a civil war.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
“Let’s see what we have here: a leftist educated certified psycho-sociologist making pronouncements on a subject you’re highly qualified in, right?”
My degree is in psycho-ceramics. That’s the study of cracked pots. I find your comments very interesting.
Martin van Buren owned a slave, whom he inherited from his father. The slave ran away when VB was a teenager. VB was always “personally anti-slave” as so many modern “pro-choice” people are, but his POLICIES were specifically designed to protect and preserve the slave system.
So what he did in 1848, like the woman in “Roe v. Wade,” its kind of nice after the fact, but way too late. He as much as anyone not only brought on the Civil War but saddled us with a two-party system based on spoils/patronage/money but also ensured (because of that) that government would inexorably grow.
OK I lol’d at that one ;’}
The libs were angry, violent and bitter during the eight commie wet dream years of the Boy King. Is it any surprise that they are so unhinged now?
The disaster at Appomattox ensured the federal government would inexorably grow. No one can say “no” to the government in Washington - and live.
Nonsense. The “disaster” at Appomattox showed that you cannot own slaves and profess freedom. CSA Constitution was all about slavery, mentioning it THREE times specifically.
Democrats are still all about slavery. It was the essence of the South and the essence of the new welfare Dem slavery party, and I hope CA tries secession cause it too will see its little Appomattox.
“CSA Constitution was all about slavery, mentioning it THREE times specifically.”
Didn’t the USA Constitution - the one that Abraham Lincoln swore to defend - mention slavery three times?
To objectively consider someone else’s viewpoint, you must first realize that there actually are viewpoints different than your own.
“Pro-Confederates like to blame everyone, anyone, except the slavers themselves.”
I have been very outspoken in denouncing slavers on this site. Recently I took on the notorious slaver Elihu Yale.
I wrote: “Why is there still a Yale University? The name is tainted. The programs are tainted. The professors are tainted. The degrees are tainted.
Seize their assets. Revoke their charter. Demolish the buildings. Give the land back to native Americans. Prohibit the band from playing the Yale fight song.”
What do you want me to do next: advocate destroying the Washington monument?
You know, I gave you a thumbs upon your stupid joke and you still choose to insult me. From here on out you can go F yourself. We all realize that there are alternate points of view - even insipid libtard hairsplitting “arguments” such as you are fond of spewing.
“You know, I gave you a thumbs upon your stupid joke and you still choose to insult me.”
My post was misdirected to your address. I’m not sure how it happened but it was not intentional. I regret the error.
” The “disaster” at Appomattox showed that you cannot own slaves and profess freedom. “
Didn’t George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and a host of others do exactly that?
Neoyankee babble and virtue signaling ...I learned that latter from Mark Steyn today
What’s happening here is the entiredissolution of western civilization from Sydney to Stockholm to Seattle
It’s a damn site worse than the family squabble that was the War of Northern Agression
Lord do these Jonah Goldberg types ever give it a rest
There is a fcuk Lot more going on right now that this incessant south bashing cheap virtue reach around
Screw yall....the writer and his ilk that is
Your political correctness and never ending negro and any non white now grovel is
Indicative of why we’re mired in this self inflicted dissolution of the best civilizations the entire planet ever knew that so many for hundreds of years sought to protect from those who sought to subjugate it
Every time I see a skinny white hipster I see why we’re so fubar
You know you see what really matters to these folks don’t you
A need to fee morally l superior
They are the new church ladies in this post Christian culture
I’m as you know in a black city right now that is arguably my favorite in America
There is a serious move underfoot to remove any vestige of any historical white person who could be deemed racist for whatever reason no matter how crazy the notion
They even have an acronym for the standards they are setting
And I mean they wish to basically remove all white reference including Lincoln for his documented racist comments and his emancipation which didn’t emancipate much at the time except as a political statement.....This local Sharpton actually is critical of Lincoln as a racist
I’ve yet to see Butler on the list
But it goes from DeSoto to Iberville to all white southerners and founders of the United States to relatively modern whites like Paul Tulane and yes Ronald Reagan
As well as remove any confederate symbolism from museums and now they are targeting white generals from WWII who they claim were segregationists
It’s insanity
The New Orleans Committee of Public Safety.......that was a joke....will anyone get it
These freepers who live to beat on our heritage are naive as to what’s at stake and we’ve tried to tell them for 17 years so they must be truly stupid
And they are intellectually dishonest
Like it’s as simple as democrats and republicans bad and good since forever respectively
That is simpleton logic
Look a their precious GOP right now....they are Trumps biggest obstacle
And this political correctness has made us so weak for a real enemy who wishes to annihilate us
If you’re kissing the ring of political correctness you are part of the problem
Doesn’t matter how much unearned virtue you cling to
Good article I read today.
https://straightlinelogic.com/2017/03/23/the-useful-and-the-useless-by-robert-gore/
Neal Boortz used to split the population into 3 groups: Producers, moochers and looters. Looters work for the govt, and gain power by purchasing the votes of the moochers with the wealth they looted from the producers.
It will work until it doesn’t. We have more than a political problem or a cultural problem, we have a math problem. We have promised the big rock candy mountain to all the moochers, and the party will come to an end purely based on math. No leader or party can apply a political fix to a math problem. 2+2 cannot = 17 even if lawmakers pass a law demanding it.
The battle lines are forming.
https://straightlinelogic.com/2017/03/23/the-useful-and-the-useless-by-robert-gore/
You’re standing on the prow of an ocean liner cutting through the icy waters of the North Atlantic. A huge iceberg looms dead ahead. You’ve seen it for some time, but now it’s too close, and the liner too big and fast, to avoid the collision. You quietly make your way to the lifeboats, knowing they’re the only chance for saving yourself and your loved ones. Below decks, an orchestra plays a waltz and oblivious revelers dance.
Most people don’t foresee the world’s inevitable collision with the iceberg of unsustainable fantasy. When it happens, they’ll respond predictably, with panic and cowardice. Those who’ve seen it coming and moved to the lifeboats will experience their own roiling emotions, attenuated by recognition of the logic behind the disaster. While the forewarned have dreaded impact, many will also welcome it, in the way one welcomes an unpleasant medical procedure: let’s get it over with. The motive is not malice, but conviction born of experience that actions have consequences and there’s no escaping them. After seemingly inexplicable and interminable delay, consequences shall arrive, amplified by the tawdry stratagems that promoted delay.
It will come as a surprise to many, but governments cannot suspend reality. Their arsenal, when things break down, comes down to their arsenal: the capacity to coerce. Violence or its threat enables governments to exact compliance. Proponents of government power invariably see themselves exercising it. Once the ship hits the iceberg, it will be obvious that governments’ guns are not wands, freeing citizens from the necessity of producing as much or more than they consume. They cannot compel innovators to innovate or producers to produce. While coercive power comes from one end of a gun, none of the powers that produce progress (and the gun) magically materialize at the other end.
It is said that America is a society divided. True enough, but the important question is: along what lines? Crisis and social breakdown will provide clarification: it’s governments and their beneficiaries versus producers. In other words, those who don’t do useful things versus those who do. (more at link)
You as in a government. And ultimately, no, we couldn’t and didn’t.
Nope. The word slavery does not appear in US Constitution.
See Article I, Section 2.
See Article I, Section 9.
See Article IV, Section 2.
Now, buy a good thesaurus.
Any time you have to refer to yet outside definitions, you’re in trouble. “persons bound” or “unfree persons” did not just include slaves. It included indentured servants.
Nice try though. It’s amazing the lengths to which neoconfederates will go to defend slavery in the CSA which, by the way, DID use the term slavery, and which Alexander Stephens said was the purpose of forming the CSA-—to ensure the permanence of slavery.
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