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To: Ancesthntr
"...for purposes of the 14th Amendment, the United States would have no jurisdiction over any person born in the United States..."

So your plan is to give a bunch of people diplomatic immunity so that they don't have to obey the law? Don't think that's such a great plan.

25 posted on 02/24/2017 9:33:35 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo


So your plan is to give a bunch of people diplomatic immunity so that they don’t have to obey the law? Don’t think that’s such a great plan.”


Uh, no, not quite. Try understanding what someone is talking about before criticizing them. Take a gander at the very first sentence of the 14th Amendment:

“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

It seems quite clear to me, based on the text above, that someone who is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States is not a citizen of the United States just because they were born within our territory. For example, and this was specifically included in the debates leading up to the 14th Amendment’s passage by Congress, the child of a foreign diplomat and his foreign wife would not be a US citizen just because that child was born here. Why? Because that person was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. By the way, I am not merely speculating - this is settled law, and my Constitutional Law professor told all of us future lawyers this on numerous occasions.

Again, it would be nice to actually understand what someone is talking about before criticizing them. Try it sometime, you might like it.


45 posted on 02/24/2017 11:25:04 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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