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To: thoughtomator

If I recall, this was a “showboat” operation by the ATF for TV. The agents fired first by shooting the dogs and then riddling the front door with bullets.

All the local sheriff had to do was pick up Koresh whenever he went into town for suppies, but the ATF were looking for a shoot out.

It was massacre of epic proportions, and to this day, no one has been held accountable.


6 posted on 02/19/2017 2:57:57 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: PhiloBedo

[All the local sheriff had to do was pick up Koresh whenever he went into town for suppies, but the ATF were looking for a shoot out.]

Yes, it was well-known that Koresh was in town all the time. Townspeople were on TV talking about it.

I cannot be certain, but there was a guy who (looking back now) reminds me of Eric Holder - of course, spouting nonsense, as he always does. I have often wondered if it was him or just some other guy. I saw it on TV but cannot remember what the show was nor anything about it.

He was repeating the lie that Koresh was never in town.


15 posted on 02/19/2017 3:06:54 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: PhiloBedo

And if my memory is correct, that door disappeared and was never found. So there is no proof to contradict the ATF statements that they were fired on first through the door. Yep, my government always ready to cover up mistakes.


23 posted on 02/19/2017 3:20:32 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: PhiloBedo

The only thing missing was a flag pole with a red flag and a bugle corp sounding the deguello.


60 posted on 02/19/2017 4:51:39 PM PST by Midnitethecat
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To: PhiloBedo

When the photo op went bad for the agents, they attacked the news crew they’d invited and tried to take their tapes. (Dan Mulloney interview)

15:21 into this documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU

Also I recall in this documentary is a clip (from CSPAN?) where Chuck Schumer acknowledges that the agents have lied about not using incendiary devices (they also lied about Delta Force not being present) but excuses it by saying that both sides had lied at the hearing. I seem to recall it is near the end of the documentary, (it was billed as a followup to the Oscar nominated film which aired in varying lengths, with Time-Lies-HBO saying they cut Waco Rules of Engagement purely for time constraint reasons).

I saw clips of Chuck at 1:08:xx, 1:13:xx, and 1:20:xx


84 posted on 02/19/2017 8:08:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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