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To: Lurkinanloomin

Sorry, but for every out of battery problem (there is never a need to rack slide to chamber a round if carried right), I think problems if a jammed cylinder failing to rotate perfectly, one of 50 parts failing, especially the little ones like the pawl, a semi-automatic is more reliable than a revolver every time.

Sorry, but the misnomer that a revolver never fails killed a number of FBI agents in the Miami shootout.


17 posted on 02/11/2017 7:06:53 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

get a little unburned gun powder trapped behind the star ejector and see how fast a revolver stops working.


25 posted on 02/11/2017 7:20:46 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Strac6

“Sorry, but the misnomer that a revolver never fails killed a number of FBI agents in the Miami shootout.”

It did nothing of the sort. No revolver there failed. Both bad guys were stopped by revolver fire. Matix was taken out early in the fight by 2 revolver rounds. At the end of the fight Platt and Matix both were given a full revolver load by Mireles that ended the fight.

The revolver and shotgun there were the only things that saved the day.


34 posted on 02/11/2017 7:35:56 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Strac6

“the misnomer that a revolver never fails killed a number of FBI agents in the Miami shootout”

No, what killed people at Miami was a guy who took a long time to die. And unless you blow a guy’s brains out, there will be enough residual blood pressure for him to shoot back - no matter where else hit - for 10-20 seconds. That is enough time for him to empty a gun into your chest.

Guns are not shields. They do NOT stop other people from shooting you. Period.

I’ve had two revolver failures in 40 years. I’ve had a S&W Shield jam multiple times...never figured out why.

There are no absolute rules in self defense.


36 posted on 02/11/2017 7:38:37 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Strac6

And the FBI revolvers weren’t even using magnum loads. They were using the lead 158 SWHP +P .38 Special loads. The supposed weapon “failure” in Miami was the performance of the 9mm silvertip round.

Actually every weapon there was fine. It was FBI tactics that were lacking. They blamed the gun. And that is where the 10mm FBI gun came from, leading to the .40 s&w.


39 posted on 02/11/2017 7:41:42 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Strac6

“Sorry, but the misnomer that a revolver never fails killed a number of FBI agents in the Miami shootout.”

The 6Ps killed them.


44 posted on 02/11/2017 7:55:04 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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